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Re:65% increase in "significant" Air Traffic Control inciden... by PromKwing on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:32PM (#38589070)
Yikes. What a weird thing to try to make it about race. So to clarify, if you're not white and male, then obviously you're just not serious about a job because you're a "diversity" hire and not a serious person. Got it.
Re:65% increase in "significant" Air Traffic Control inciden... by throwme_123 on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:35PM (#38589099)
If you're (much) less competent but the only reason why you get the job is "diversity", then yes we have a problem.

There can be diverse good candidates of course, there's no racism here.

Re:65% increase in "significant" Air Traffic Control inciden... by PromKwing on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:42PM (#38589134)
Right, so if you're not the hiring manager, how do you know someone is a "diversity hire" though? Isn't it racist to just assume someone was hired as a "diversity hire"? Most importantly, people tend to hire people like themselves, if the hiring manager is white it's most likely they'll hire someone who is white regardless if they're more qualified, but I doubt anyone ever questions those hires.
Re:65% increase in "significant" Air Traffic Control inciden... by throwme_123 on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:47PM (#38589172)
That's the point.

You should not know and should not take it in consideration but in the USA this is part of the application. I understand the whole point is to make sure diverse candidate are not discriminated against (and of course that would be a ridiculous thing to do), but it seems to have been perverted into caricaturical discrimination _for_, even favoring a diverse incompetent candidate over a non-diverse competent one.

Re:65% increase in "significant" Air Traffic Control inciden... by mcphage on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:51PM (#38589187)
> You should not know and should not take it in consideration

Then how do you suppose we ended up with fields where nearly everyone was a white male, if race was never taken into consideration?

Re:65% increase in "significant" Air Traffic Control inciden... by jimbob45 on Sunday December 10, 2023 @02:27AM (#38589818)
Because whites were 85% of the US population for a long time and being a SAHM used to be a viable strategy.
Re:65% increase in "significant" Air Traffic Control inciden... by PromKwing on Sunday December 10, 2023 @12:41AM (#38589421)
> but it seems to have been perverted into caricaturical discrimination _for_, even favoring a diverse incompetent candidate over a non-diverse competent one.

That's a crazy claim told without any proof. I don't see any studies, sources linked in your comment. That just sounds like your own anecdotal perspective.

Re:65% increase in "significant" Air Traffic Control inciden... by sixQuarks on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:46PM (#38589161)
Sounds like you’re the one making it about race. Are you saying there is not a single non white male among the veteran group?

The point is, people in this position should be hired based on merit regardless of their race, sex, or anything else.

Re:65% increase in "significant" Air Traffic Control inciden... by PromKwing on Sunday December 10, 2023 @12:44AM (#38589443)
> Are you saying there is not a single non white male among the veteran group?

I am not saying that and yes that would be obvious. That doesn't negate anything about how it's on the "diversity hires" and not the veterans pointed out in this thread, lol

It's all just speculation.

> The point is, people in this position should be hired based on merit regardless of their race, sex, or anything else.

What's your proof that people aren't hired based on merit regardless of their race, sex, or anything else though? Just wild speculation on your part? lol