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Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by asylteltine on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:21PM (#38576791)
This is actually a great point I didn’t originally consider. People could easily infiltrate the iMessage fort with spam and other stuff which at the moment requires a genuine Apple device.
Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by singpolyma3 on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:47PM (#38577019)
Still need a valid phone number with a SIM that can do the special SMS needed for this, so it's hardly going to produce a big spam farm too fast.
Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by boxed on Saturday December 09, 2023 @02:51AM (#38579674)
Better to kill it early. I get spam calls on WhatsApp (an app which I absolutely loathe)
Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by asylteltine on Saturday December 09, 2023 @10:33AM (#38582701)
It’s completely trivial to get a real number for sms these days thanks to scum like twilio. You can use your legitimate Apple device identifiers to run something like a hackintosh and then use iMessage that way, or use the script linked last week.
Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by grupthink on Friday December 08, 2023 @08:15PM (#38577254)
Wouldn't your iPhone still receive spam SMS text messages with Apple Messages? And isn't Apple Messages commonly exploited by NSO Group (Zero-clicks)? Maybe I'm wrong, but this does not appear to be very fort-like.
Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by rezonant on Friday December 08, 2023 @09:27PM (#38577833)
Yes. I believe people are just saying that they assume unknown-contact SMS is spam and that sort of sounds like Apple's SMS spam filtering isn't very good.
Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by dwaite on Saturday December 09, 2023 @12:46AM (#38578998)
For iPhone there are two tiers - the carrier provided SMS spam filtering, and apps written to provide such filtering[1].

1: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/sms_and_call_repor...

Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by rezonant on Saturday December 09, 2023 @01:03AM (#38579092)
Oh, so there's no builtin message filtering at all??

This explains some things. Why wouldn't they just add a spam filter. Is there still iCloud email addresses? Do they have spam filtering?

Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by spullara on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:24PM (#38576821)
I'm pretty sure some of the spam I am getting was using this vector. Hopefully it kills it now.
Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by ysofunny on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:25PM (#38576830)
that's one of the reasons they're doing this

but I don't think it's their main reason, if anything I see that argument as convenient posturing which aids in covering the uglier underlying reasons