News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by jjgreen on Friday December 08, 2023 @02:51PM (#38573339)
Funny how so many otherwise clever people get confused about this.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by aga98mtl on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:25PM (#38573823)
I would be surprised if clever people were actually confused about that. Only a rich person like PG can afford to say the emperor has no clothes.
[dead]
Re:The pro-Israel information war by amanaplanacanal on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:40PM (#38574019)
I dunno. I’m pretty sure I’m innocent of the horrors of the Iraq war even though I have been a US citizen over 60 years. Blaming civilians for the actions of their government is kind of what terrorists do.
[dead]
Re:The pro-Israel information war by KittenInABox on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:50PM (#38574162)
I mean, can't this also be explained by the fact that the environment is effectively a dictatorship? Do we also poll north koreans who will obviously say that Kim Jong Un is the greatest thing since kimchi and seriously take it at face value?
Re:The pro-Israel information war by zlg_codes on Friday December 08, 2023 @05:56PM (#38575846)
Do you believe there is zero correlation between what citizens allow their country to do and that country's actions?

We did not protest and revolt enough over money being sent to the Middle East. America has done every wrong move in handling this, and yet I can guarantee you there are people in this country that wanted America to fuel a war.

There is some responsibility that citizens have for the outcomes of their elections.

Re:The pro-Israel information war by amanaplanacanal on Saturday December 09, 2023 @05:35PM (#38586810)
Not sure what you want me to do. I didn’t vote for the bastards.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by deadbunny on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:44PM (#38574076)
They were elected in 2006 (the last election in Palestine), with the average age of currently living Palestinians being somewhere around 2 years old. Not sure I'd hold them responsible for that election result.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by soVeryTired on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:45PM (#38574088)
By that logic I could put the Iraq war on your head, assuming you're American. Hamas supporters are complicit, but not all Gazans are.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by notaustinpowers on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:44PM (#38574085)
47%+ of the population of Palestine and Gaza are under the age of 18, and 75.9% are under the age of 35, which is how old they'd have to be to have voted Hamas back in 2006 when they had their last election.

When almost 76% of a country has never had the ability to vote in an election, can you really say that it's disingenuous to claim that much of the people of Gaza are innocent victims?

Re:The pro-Israel information war by devmor on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:14PM (#38573664)
No one is immune to all propaganda, even the most clever people.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by oh_sigh on Friday December 08, 2023 @04:35PM (#38574799)
I am though.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by gedy on Friday December 08, 2023 @04:20PM (#38574583)
There's no confusion, had Israel or the US busted into civilian homes and raped and murdered women and children, live streaming it - Would you be fine with people marching down the streets the next day in middle eastern countries with Israeli or American flags saying the same thing?
Re:The pro-Israel information war by freeone3000 on Friday December 08, 2023 @04:28PM (#38574693)
That is the world we live in, not a hypothetical. That is why there are people marching down the streets.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by mupuff1234 on Friday December 08, 2023 @06:57PM (#38576595)
Some people are confused sure, but honestly it is quite obvious that a lot of time when people say "Zionists" they actually just mean "Jews".

Looking at comments online, i'd argue that around 90%+ when someone uses the word "Zionism" they are just bigots.

If you genuinely want to criticize israel, just critique the country and its actions, the same you would do for any other country, no need to start talking about "Zionists" etc.

Re:The pro-Israel information war by throw_m239339 on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:56PM (#38578408)
> Funny how so many otherwise clever people get confused about this.

Nobody gets confused about what is what:

https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites/