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Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by yunohn on Friday December 08, 2023 @02:46AM (#38566408)
I find it kind of hilarious that a paid search engine is highlighting paid articles to help their users avoid them.
Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by arghwhat on Friday December 08, 2023 @02:53AM (#38566441)
Why? There's nothing wrong with paying for something (including some news sites), and when I search for a topic I'm looking for something I can actually read. Knowing that a link will get me nowhere without the credit card is useful.
Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by janosett on Friday December 08, 2023 @02:54AM (#38566449)
You’re paying them to rank and collect information from things on the web for you. People can’t subscribe to everything and it’s nice as a user of a search engine to know if it’s a requirement.
Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by Grimburger on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:08AM (#38566522)
Many top 10 searches are paywalled and a waste of time clicking on, this seems like exactly the sort of thing people want from a search engine?
Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by omnicognate on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:18AM (#38566578)
It doesn't say anything about avoiding them. It's just indicating that they are (potentially) paywalled.

To a user willing to pay Kagi for a better search experience that may well be seen as a mark that those articles are more likely to be worth reading.

Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by shinryuu on Friday December 08, 2023 @04:41AM (#38567092)
Down the road I see a potential bundle / partnership :).
Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by q0uaur on Friday December 08, 2023 @06:11AM (#38567630)
we really need a better way of paying for content. There's some attempts going around of browsers or extensions paying sites, but the ones i've seen felt kinda scammy.

i'd love some service where i can put in $20 a month, and it gets split up among the sites i've visited, with options to give bigger shares or exclude sites completely. probably not gonna happen for a while though, having to set up something to receive payments with is just too much trouble for the small personal blogs etc. that have the most interesting content.

Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by freeAgent on Friday December 08, 2023 @06:51AM (#38567887)
Scroll used to basically do this, but then it was acquired by Twitter, lobotomized, and turned into a Twitter Blue feature. After that I gave up on it.
Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by carlosjobim on Friday December 08, 2023 @07:47AM (#38568378)
Honestly, I think a service like Kagi (together with their Orion browser) would be best suited to set up a service like this. I've been thinking for some time about exactly the idea you're proposing.

The interface could be so simple: a button in your browser you click to donate to the current open tab. That button turns into a pay button if you've opened a page that demands payment. And the page could specify how much it costs.

Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by freediver on Friday December 08, 2023 @12:53PM (#38571904)
We would love to do this, and we are waiting for the right technology to do so!
Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by plagiarist on Friday December 08, 2023 @03:35PM (#38573948)
I'd use a service like that as long as this removes all advertising and third-party analytics from the site as well.
Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by krageon on Friday December 08, 2023 @05:31PM (#38575545)
Payments online are a giant nightmare pit because the US finance world is very very scared of sex work. As long as that doesn't get solved, I don't see easily accessible and distributed payments working in a way that doesn't involve hoops most folks don't want to jump through (i.e. sending in ID to some corp that will definitely leak it a week later or cryptocurrency).
Re:Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved w... by freediver on Friday December 08, 2023 @01:58PM (#38572772)
> help their users avoid them

Or draw attention to content that may be better?