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Re:Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push no... by JustLurking2022 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:05AM (#38544033)
That sounds like an attempt to ban political expression that is certainly protected by the First Amendment.
Re:Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push no... by rchaud on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:22AM (#38544217)
Wyden knows such a bill wouldn't pass specifically because of its unconstitutionality. This was about picking up media coverage by throwing red meat at voters.

Congress has been in a state of deadlock for too long to pass any actual laws, so this type of performative theater ahead of midterm elections is what passes for statesmanship.

Re:Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push no... by eli on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:49AM (#38544609)
That's awfully generous. He co-sponsored a bad law that he didn't actually want to see passed?
Re:Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push no... by rchaud on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @10:51AM (#38545451)
He may definitely want to see it passed. But elected officials should not be engaging in pushing bills that won't pass their first legal challenge.
Re:Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push no... by eli on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @10:54AM (#38545507)
Similar bills have already passed legal challenges https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/eighth-circuit-upholds-...

I think it's a bad law and he's making a big mistake. I'm still a fan though.

Re:Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push no... by rchaud on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @01:52PM (#38547996)
Thanks for the link. Scary to see that the state is re-drafting these laws specifically to find loopholes in the constitutional definitions of freedom of speech. Check out this other loophole:

> The act does not apply to contracts worth less than $1,000, or to companies that offer to provide the goods or services for at least 20 percent less than the lowest price quoted by a business that has complied with the certification requirement.

So, a contractor if free to boycott as long as they cost the taxpayer a little bit less.

Re:Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push no... by peyton on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:14AM (#38544127)
It’s already pretty much the law. You can submit your complaints to the Office of Anti-Boycott Compliance [1].

Foreign governments can’t force government contractors to comply with boycotts. This bill AFAIK simply closes the loophole of Palestine not technically being a foreign government.

[1]: https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/enforcement/oac

Re:Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push no... by eli on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:55AM (#38544632)
That's not the same thing. This isn't about foreign government demands, it's about US states being legally able to discriminate against contractors who participate in BDS. (Edit: in fact it's about contractors who refuse to sign a pledge that they won't ever participate in BDS)
Re:Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push no... by calvinmorrison on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:11AM (#38544100)
Well established ban, since you cannot discriminate anymore or voluntarily associate anymore as a business