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Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by usrnm on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @05:37AM (#38529202)
The US already threatened to invade the Netherlands a few years ago, it worked like a charm. There isn't much the Dutch can do, when the US wants something from them
Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by jacooper on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:19AM (#38529503)
What ? When? Any sources?
Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by Kbelicius on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:36AM (#38529624)
The Hague is in Netherlands and the US has threatened that it will invade if ever a US service member is brought to the international criminal court.[0]

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Pr...

Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by Turing_Machine on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @08:56AM (#38530704)
The fact that it is located in The Hague doesn't make the ICC "the Netherlands" any more than a drug cartel based in Miami is "the United States".

It's not an entity of the Netherlands government in any respect.

As far as the actual country of Netherlands goes, the United States and that country have a standard extradition treaty, as the US does with most countries that have a reasonable court system that protects the rights of the accused.

The US views the ICC as an illegitimate kangaroo court that does not meet the minimum standards for such protection, and thus does not recognize it any more than it would recognize, say, a terrorist-run "Islamic court". If such "courts" grab US citizens and put them "on trial", then, yeah, they shouldn't be surprised when US Navy SEALs coming crashing through their windows. That wouldn't make it an "invasion" of the country where the "court" was located, but something more akin to a hostage rescue mission.

Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:34PM (#38538963)
> The US views the ICC as an illegitimate kangaroo court that does not meet the minimum standards for such protection

No, it doesn't, which is why it makes referrals to the ICC. The US just believes that the US, uniquely, should not be subject to any external accountability, because it uniquely can be trusted to hold its own war criminals accountable without such external fallback.

Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by Turing_Machine on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:41AM (#38543085)
> No, it doesn't, which is why it makes referrals to the ICC.

Yes, actually, it does.

https://2001-2009.state.gov/t/pm/rls/fs/23428.htm

In part: "We object, however, to the investigation or prosecution of our citizens by the ICC, whose jurisdiction we have not consented to and which lacks necessary safeguards to ensure against politically motivated investigations and prosecutions."

Read the whole thing.

Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by bbarnett on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @05:45AM (#38529253)
Provide solid links, when you make such clearly outrageous claims.

No way the US threatened troops into the Netherlands, and the Dutch would have never capitulated. At all.

All of Western Europe would join in.

The best I can figure is the US threatened to extract someone in an op. That's not invasion, and even that seems hard to buy.

So link please. And to a real news source, not some guy going on about it on tiktok or youtube, or a blog by a random person.

Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by usrnm on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:04AM (#38529403)
Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by bbarnett on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:59AM (#38529778)
That's not threatening to invade. That's granting the US President powers to take acts, invasion being one of them, without congressional oversight.

I'm a Canuck, but you need to call a thing what it is.

For example, sanctions could be something done as part of this bill. Arresting a Dutch person on US soil.

You may not like this bill, and I personally don't have much of an opinion on it, but it does not say "arrest and we will immediately invade and blow up cities and take control of your entire nation". It isn't even directed at the Netherlands directly, instead the court, wherever that may be now or in the future.

Saying "The threatened to invade" is an effort to put the worst possible spin on it. And without context, it makes it sound like this happened 2 weeks ago, such as "The US moved a carrier group to the coast of the Netherlands, and they're threatening to invade!"

The only way I would accept language like "threatened to invade" would be if it was actually threatened.

Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by DeathArrow on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:08AM (#38529436)
>All of Western Europe would join in.

All EU countries bend their backs when US say so.

Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by bbarnett on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:00AM (#38529788)
No, they do not. Otherwise the US wouldn't run around making up things like 'freedom fries', because the French upset them so.
Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by t324oi234j3434 on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:07AM (#38529429)
Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by ben_w on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:14AM (#38529474)
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Re:US gov fires a warning shot at Nvidia by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:30PM (#38538936)
> The US already threatened to invade the Netherlands a few years ago, it worked like a charm.

It worked...at what, exactly? I mean, leaving aside whether what was in question was actually a threat, I don't see that it has had any substantive effect on the policy either of the Netherlands or of the particular international institution headquartered in The Hague that that was its subject, so I don't see how it can be described as working like a charm, except as a piece of US domestic propaganda (which was its real purpose, of course.)