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Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by duskwuff on Monday December 04, 2023 @05:58PM (#38524390)
A federal felony and a 6-month prison sentence, on their own, would almost certainly tip the scales to "not worth it". I wouldn't be surprised if there were also a disgorgement involved.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by mozman on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:06PM (#38524492)
It’s a big black mark on your reputation, it’s rarely worth it. He could have injured or killed someone for a video.

Crime doesn’t pay

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by dzhiurgis on Monday December 04, 2023 @08:14PM (#38525755)
> He could have injured or killed someone for a video.

I'm pretty sure you are more likely to kill someone driving to work today than crashing a plane in some random as forest.

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by constantly on Monday December 04, 2023 @08:59PM (#38526059)
But you’re more likely to kill someone when the remote forest fire you sparked by intentionally crashing your plane grew and took out a bunch of firefighters and a village than you are to kill someone driving to work.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by goles on Monday December 04, 2023 @10:16PM (#38526670)
Killing someone driving to work so you can pay for rent/mortgage/groceries is somewhat different than putting Go Pros on your car and deliberately crashing into someone so you can pay for rent/mortgage/groceries.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by paulpauper on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:56PM (#38525070)
It’s a big black mark on your reputation, it’s rarely worth it.

Maybe if he was applying for a job at the FAA, as a pilot, or as a school teacher. but for a professional youtuber, not so much.

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by TerrifiedMouse on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:13PM (#38525237)
It does close those doors though.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by ta1243 on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:11PM (#38524545)
Large companies commit crime constantly and make it pay, the fines they incur are simply counted a cost of doing business
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by adrr on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:30PM (#38524743)
They don't regularly commit crimes though. They commit regulatory violations. There's a big difference. Like getting a parking ticket versus being convicted for a felony. Ones that get convicted like Purdue Pharma are fined so heavily they are forced to close. Or they could just be banned from doing business like Arthur Anderson when they had to surrender their CPA licenses and forgo rights to practice.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by titzer on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:35PM (#38524807)
Steal a loaf of bread, do hard time. Steal $5 here and there millions of times over from unsuspecting customers with completely made-up junk fees, and it's an FTC fine...after years of haggling in court. The magic of indirection!
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by boeingUH60 on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:46PM (#38524945)
Nobody does hard time for stealing a loaf of bread, but sure keep ranting..
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by evan_ on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:02PM (#38525134)
Tell that to Jean Valjean.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by BobaFloutist on Monday December 04, 2023 @10:41PM (#38526829)
I don't know how to tell you this, but Jean Valjean is a fictional character.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by ta1243 on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @03:01AM (#38528177)
Based on real punishments. And people had their hands chopped off for petty theft too.

The historical element is more relevant. In the UK (and perhaps the US) in 1723 it was made illegal to hunt a rabbit - punishable by death.

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by evan_ on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @04:09PM (#38536934)
fine- Aladdin, then
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by BobaFloutist on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:37PM (#38550448)
Fair enough
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by InCityDreams on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:52PM (#38525604)
3rd strike law? I knew someone that did 14 days for stealing a frozen chicken. Repeat offender...the judge may have been fed up for all the other crap from previous and decided to go full max.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by financltravsty on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:51PM (#38525009)
USSR? China? Malaysia? Saudi Arabia? Iran? USA if the police and DA want to make an example?
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by adrr on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:08PM (#38525185)
I doubt anyone does any jail time for stealing bread unless they are habitual offender(multiple felony convictions) or its aggravated theft(eg: by force/violence). Court cases are public so feel free to prove me wrong.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by financltravsty on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:38PM (#38525474)
Todd Hutchinson (bread, candy, and a radio -- U.S.A), Elkeno Wallace (hot dog buns -- Bahamas), Jean Valjean (self-evident), numerous gulag victims (see: Solzhenitsyn), unnamed father who got his hand and foot chopped off for stealing a bag of flour in Syria, etc.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by duskwuff on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:49PM (#38525582)
> Jean Valjean (self-evident)

Jean Valjean is a character in a novel, not a real person, and is about as relevant to this discussion as a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk.

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by financltravsty on Monday December 04, 2023 @09:44PM (#38526447)
Apparently not self-evident!

A.k.a Eugène Vidocq

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by mkl on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @02:53AM (#38528150)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Fran%C3%A7ois_Vido... says he stole a lot of money from his parents' bakery, but wasn't imprisoned for that (though was for plenty of other crimes).
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by financltravsty on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @12:44PM (#38534276)
Yes, he was a criminal since 14 (maybe earlier) -- facing his first stint at that age. It's debatable whether his reputation followed him in those days, having bounced around towns and cities so much. But he did steal bread later on in his life to -- if Hugo is to be accepted a reliable witness -- feed his family at the time. For this he was imprisoned almost immediately, leading to the creation of Jean Valjean.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by ponector on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:27AM (#38529560)
From the past: USSR applied a death sentence for stealing grains from the already harvested field.

Nowadays Taliban do hands amputation as punishment for stealing(not sure about stealing bread, though).

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by financltravsty on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:48PM (#38524965)
Fraud, conspiracy, and wage theft are the common ones that companies commit every day.

How many times have people been fraudulently misled about the scope and responsibilities of their roles? How many times have companies misclassified workers or denied overtime pay? How many times have companies lied about their products and services? How many times have big tech companies conspired to keep wages down? How many private equity and pharmaceutical companies have engaged in profiteering?

They regularly commit crimes. Though the definition of crime is constantly being patched with loopholes by lobbyists and other well-connected jackals. The Overton window keeps on shifting. It's just a power battle between people more powerful than you.

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by closewith on Monday December 04, 2023 @08:26PM (#38525822)
Crime often pays. That's part of why it's so popular.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by gorgoiler on Monday December 04, 2023 @10:16PM (#38526668)
I agree with you of course but I wonder how wise it is for governments to follow the strategy of felonies being irrevocable black marks?

That is to say if we rely on the permanent reputation taint as a deterrent then once you’ve been tainted are you not now much more likely to go do more harmful, felonious things?

I don’t know much about felonies though — perhaps they can be expunged after X years of good behaviour?

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by zlg_codes on Monday December 04, 2023 @11:41PM (#38527173)
Tell me what 6 months in a cage and financial ruin will do to teach someone about a victimless crime.

Justice is not in play here. The punishment should match the crime.

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by blackoil on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @01:40AM (#38527796)
> Tell me what 6 months in a cage and financial ruin will do to teach someone about a victimless crime.

Don't do victimless crimes. If you have already done it, don't cover it up. And if you have to do it all, don't do it stupid.

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by zlg_codes on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @01:47AM (#38527816)
Yeah that's complete BS. They don't own us, nor are they entitled to any particular respect or behavior.

Their rule is firm as long as people allow themselves to be ruled.

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by ponector on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:30AM (#38529587)
Do you think this youtuber should not be punished with prison time?

So any other kid can do the same knowing they will not be punished?

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by zlg_codes on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @03:49PM (#38536715)
No, I don't. Lecture the guy about how to do it correctly, maybe make him pay for the pollution he caused or something.

Locking him away solves nothing.

Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by olyjohn on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @06:52PM (#38551098)
Lecture him about doing what correctly? Tell him how to fly an illegal airplane, better fake a plane crash, cut up the plane and throw it in the trash to cover it up, lie to the FAA, break regulations, potentially endanger people's lives, and lie to millions of people about it for views on YouTube? Then pay for the $100 in fuel that he spilled, that can't really be cleaned up anyways? This guy already has no respect for anybody, what makes you think he'll listen to a "stern lecture?"
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by jbreckmckye on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:56AM (#38529758)
He will also never fly again.
Re:YouTuber sentenced to 6 months in prison for obstructing ... by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @04:13AM (#38528555)
Being an entitled dickhead, endangering the public and flaunting basic rules of decent society - pretty much in the 'don't do it' column. Worth it? If your ethics are worthless an argument could be made. But there's no conversion between character and cash; it's a null set.