Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by samtheprogram on Monday December 04, 2023 @04:19AM
(#38515251)
AFP not working was bothering me after updating to 14.1(.1). I have a Mavericks machine around (I know, it's old) that I was reliably copying files to/from until that update -- along with Apple Remote Desktop -- broke and I just couldn't see the Sonoma machine from any other Mac (Mojave couldn't see it either).
I figured out that by turning off File Sharing / Remote Management / etc on the Sonoma machine and turning them back on, it fixed it. Hope this helps.
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by inferiorhuman on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @01:00AM
(#38527582)
So the AFP failure mode I saw was that I could list a directory or two and then the finder would hang and eventually the connection would just drop. Apple's been nudging people to SMB for a while now so I'm kinda tempted to stay with Samba.
Except for the whole SMB data corruption thing that's apparently been a problem since Ventura.
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by huijzer on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:52AM
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"Apple Inc. hit pause on development of next year’s software updates for the iPhone, iPad, Mac and other devices so that it could root out glitches in the code." [1]
[1]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-07/apple-del...
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by kalleboo on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:55AM
(#38515104)
It was a one-week pause because the state of the new features wasn't good enough to pass a milestone. It does not signal a change of policy.
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by JimDabell on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:57AM
(#38515114)
I wish they could spend time to figure out how to build software at a sustainable pace instead of stopping every few years to fix everything.
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by troupo on Monday December 04, 2023 @05:20AM
(#38515618)
One week is not enough time to fix anything significant.
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by Lutzb on Monday December 04, 2023 @04:18AM
(#38515239)
The keyboard focus. I thought my keyboard went bad or something was stealing my keyboard inputs when switching apps. Has there been any explanation why this is happening? Could you please link the Ars article?
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by inferiorhuman on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @01:00AM
(#38527586)
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by 2big2fail_47 on Monday December 04, 2023 @04:19AM
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Fully agree. I started to install the newest iOS & MacOS releases just before the next major version is being released. I'm always one version behind but kinda works well this way.
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by grozzle on Monday December 04, 2023 @04:08AM
(#38515184)
plus the fact that exFAT read/write is cripplingly slow, a MacOS bug for years and years now.
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by ActorNightly on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:52AM
(#38515091)
Its just funny that Macs have some of the best hardware in laptops out there (for now), but utterly crippled by the locked down OS.
Re:macOS Sonoma is setting records for update size
by baz00 on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:52AM
(#38515089)
Apparently, and I can't remember where I read this, they're working on cleaning up the bugs now. There are a few nasty ones but I seem to be the guy who manages to walk through the field of landmines at the moment and not step on any.
I hope Apple can stop faffing about with new whiz bang features for a few iterations and instead focus on working down the ridiculous list of bugs in Sonoma. Somehow they've managed to utterly fuck up application switching, the mind boggles.
Edit since I'm being throttled:
I wholeheartedly agree (and I'm sure I've commented to this effect on HN before): this is probably the nicest Apple laptop I've laid my hands on and nearly the worst version of MacOS I've seen in three decades. I really like the 14" pro form factor. Thankfully I have until January to decide if I want to keep the laptop.
Keyboard focus does not reliably follow you to the new foreground application. I saw this mentioned in the comments in the Ars review but it seems to be worse for me than that guy.
Finder does not reliably display a progress indicator when copying big files, and quick look is as unreliable as ever.
AFP support is completely broken. Apple should just rip that code out instead of letting it rot like that. It's particularly frustrating because Apple dropped support for the version of SMB where Samba "properly" supported unix-y permissions.
SMB support worked for a while in the Finder, but would corrupt metadata from the command line. With 14.1.2 it seems like creating/modifying files on an SMB share from the Finder is as unreliable as the command line.