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Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha... by dr_dshiv on Monday December 04, 2023 @01:41AM (#38514322)
They did in my public school…

But I only recently learned about the final fall of Carthage in the second Punic war, when Hannibal had to return to Africa to face the young Roman general Scipio. The war elephants weren’t so veteran and so the Roman’s were able to scare them off as they charged, breaking the Carthaginian line, leading to a rapid routing.

Great battles were described in fairly great detail —

Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha... by ffgjgf1 on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:13AM (#38514488)
> the final fall of Carthage in the second Punic war

The final (non-metaphorical) Fall happened at the end of the third Punic War about 50 years later.

Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha... by borissk on Monday December 04, 2023 @01:49AM (#38514355)
I've heard the hypothesis that many in the US elite saw the confrontation with USSR as being similar to the Punic wars. With US similar to Carthage being the sea/trading power and USSR similar to Rome being the land power - poorer, but highly militarized. This being one of the arguments for keeping the US military budget high, as one of the reason for Carthage destruction was it's elites had a lot of money, but didn't invest enough into army and navy.
Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha... by fl7305 on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:15AM (#38516335)
> The war elephants weren’t so veteran and so the Roman’s were able to scare them off as they charged

Just smear a bunch of pigs with flammable grease, set on fire, and send off towards the elephants who will promptly panic.

Super easy, barely an inconvience.

Re:Tyrian purple: Ancient pigment that was more valuable tha... by NoMoreNicksLeft on Monday December 04, 2023 @10:14AM (#38518252)
Most war elephants were extensively trained with burning pigs. But they forgot to allocate enough budget for flaming porcine that year, and the mistake was fatal.

This is why the Congress never fails to add pork to every spending bill, just in case the Romans return.