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Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by spaceman_2020 on Monday December 04, 2023 @12:58AM (#38514141)
OT but does anyone have a good recommendation for a lumen lamp to simulate sunlight?
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by einarfd on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:43AM (#38514656)
Philips has had a series of lights to stimulate the sun during the short day season, that they've been selling in Norway, at least since the nineties. At the moment they've branded them energy up. They are the only brand I've seen selling something like it. But there might be others.
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by hackernewds on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:16AM (#38514889)
there are lots of options online. just search for "happy light" or ironically their proper name, "SAD light"
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by DoingIsLearning on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:07AM (#38514459)
I remember a blog post entry on HN of someone who turned their corner office/living room into some sunlight simulated thing with high candela bespoke bulbs. Maybe with the search at the bottom you will find it.
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by twooster on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:14AM (#38514877)
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by DoingIsLearning on Monday December 04, 2023 @04:04AM (#38515162)
Indeed it is!
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by graphe on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:12AM (#38514483)
You can't do a 'lumen' lamp. The IR rays are what help. Anecdotally it felt good to cover my hands with the old lamps, and the cfls and LED lights never "felt" good.
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by bbarnett on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:26AM (#38514561)
Be careful of eye damage. Cataracts form from certain frequencies of blue light, and IR can damage your retina.

(There was an article about some guy with an IR heater on his desk, which was partially faulty, and emitted too much IR in a certain frequency, and damaged his eyes)

Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by hackernewds on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:17AM (#38514893)
I got a "Happy Light" for my desk that is 10k Lumens. could that be damaging my eyes?
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by jacquesm on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:58PM (#38522947)
Link to that particular product please? I'll see if I can suss out the spectral emissions. In general, with lights that bright you probably don't want to be looking directly into them anyway, and you may want to add a diffusor if it isn't built in already.
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by graphe on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:41AM (#38514650)
Can you link me?
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by bbarnett on Monday December 04, 2023 @05:20AM (#38515617)
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by bbarnett on Monday December 04, 2023 @05:25AM (#38515666)
https://ehs.lbl.gov/resource/documents/radiation-protection/....

My understanding is that typically it isn't an issue, but the hearer malfunctioned, and it was on his desk, and so he was kind of staring at it all day.

I'd take care. Don't stare into the light, for starters.

Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by graphe on Monday December 04, 2023 @01:03PM (#38520646)
Thanks for the article. Looks like he got his eyesight back so it wasn't permanent.
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by subhro on Monday December 04, 2023 @01:06AM (#38514173)
Waveform Lighting makes awesome full spectrum bulbs. You are welcome. ;)
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by sooheon on Monday December 04, 2023 @01:28AM (#38514260)
There are a few other mfgs, Yuji is another great one, but the best price/performance IMO is SunLike from Seoul Semiconductor. They are in GE Sun Filled and Norb SMILE bulbs in the US.

http://www.seoulsemicon.com/en/technology/sunlike/casestudy/

Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by anonuser123456 on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:11AM (#38514476)
Consumer bulbs do not typically emit UVA or UVB, so you can’t simulate the sun with just one bulb.
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by ImHereToVote on Monday December 04, 2023 @05:41AM (#38515754)
Is UV radiation necessary for Circadian rhythm?
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by hackerlight on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:52AM (#38516629)
No, UV radiation doesn't matter at all for this purpose. The only thing that matters is brightness of the visible spectrum, especially blues and greens. Buy the brightest white light lamp you can find, those that treat Seasonal Affective Disorder are good.
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by andbberger on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:30AM (#38514588)
to regulate circadian rhythm you want something that hits melanopsin, which is optimally excited at 484 nm. most LEDs have a gap in the spectrum there. like another commenter mentioned, waveform has some good products with engineered phosphors. they sell some reels of LED and heat sink channels which I used to make my SAD lamp. shitty ikea, costs a little more and you have to put it together yourself. still cheaper than off the shelf SAD lamps though
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by hackernewds on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:18AM (#38514901)
mind sharing a bit more of your process on how I could make one?
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by andbberger on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @02:25PM (#38535702)
buy the reels and channels waveform sells, solder them together and connect a power supply.
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by User23 on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:01AM (#38514423)
I’m not sure what you mean by lumen lamp, but good old incandescent bulbs radiate with a spectrum quite close to that of the setting sun.
Re:Lack of sunlight during the day is worse than electric li... by dpeckett on Monday December 04, 2023 @06:09AM (#38515906)
I've had reasonable luck with full spectrum LED grow lights (quantum board). Though you absolutely 100% need a diffuser. Discovered their efficacy by accident after one winter I shared an office with my house plants.

Though looking at the research they are probably putting out enough energy in the blue spectrum to risk cataracts (so do your own safety research).