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Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by gkbrk on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @12:28PM (#38448288)
What new features are needed to display my windows on my screen?
Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by vetinari on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @03:06PM (#38450526)
On the output side: Mixed-DPI displays. HDR/wide color gamuts/LUTs/color management. Non-rectangle workspaces, or workspaces with no absolute coordinate systems (think headsets).

On the input side: touch gestures recognized as touch gestures, not as mouse emulation.

On both: hotplug of all input/output devices. Headless sessions and handover of sessions between console and headless, both directions. Reliable lock screen, even if popup menu is showing ;).

Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by LoganDark on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @04:57PM (#38451885)
> Reliable lock screen, even if popup menu is showing ;)

Impossible. I'm told if you're not running xscreensaver it is safe to assume that your screen does not lock!

Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by dmitrygr on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @02:17AM (#38456510)
> Mixed-DPI displays. HDR/wide color gamuts/LUTs/color management. Non-rectangle workspaces, or workspaces with no absolute coordinate systems

Pop quiz, how many of those work on wayland?

Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by m4rtink on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @05:58AM (#38457909)
I have multi DPI displays (laptop + 2 monitors) work fine on Wayland (fractional scaling).
Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by vetinari on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @06:11AM (#38458012)
Except the HDR/wide color/LUTs/color management, everything.

And the last missing thing is WIP.

Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by abenga on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @12:44PM (#38448495)
At some point you will have to either start building it for yourself or get someone to build it for you (when distros drop it from their repos). And that will become harder and harder as time goes by. Just recently apps I was building using Tauri stopped working on Xband forced me to switch to the Wayland Gnome session (on Debian testing) permanently. This will become more and more common, until it becomes untenable.
Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by gkbrk on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @12:48PM (#38448547)
I doubt it will be so hard to build. Folks build X servers for Linux, Mac and Windows right now. If anything, X will probably outlive Wayland.
Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by abenga on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @09:32PM (#38468657)
Building X is probably going to be trivial going into the future, yeah. Building and running future apps written for the Wayland will be a different beast though.
Re:Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Plans for Wayland and Xorg Se... by gkbrk on Thursday November 30, 2023 @02:22AM (#38470684)
Just like there is XWayland today to make it possible to use a Wayland system with X apps, there are already similar solutions to run Wayland apps on an X system.

If you run `cage`, it will run a Wayland application in its own sandboxed window while the rest of the system runs X.

Similarly; if you run `sway` under X for example, it will start the window manager in its own window, and you can run Wayland applications inside it.