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Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by fevangelou on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @09:12AM (#38379391)
It's oh so weird the article does not mention any of these though...

- https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/163570439893983232... (SA's sister - also have a look at her recent posts)

- Also: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman... (utterly distressing)

- https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1727096607752282485 (check the comment with snapshots of the letter - "strangely" that Gist was deleted)

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by nabakin on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @12:01PM (#38381804)
Fyi the gist was a copy of that letter originally posted to board.net. It was created by a user here on HN when the board.net link first came out and its servers subsequently crashed from the HN hug of death.
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by whalesalad on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @09:51AM (#38379960)
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by twic on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:53AM (#38380869)
Sounds like Roko's Basilisk knows where he lives.
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by smegsicle on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @11:34AM (#38381423)
that can't be true- why would sam altman and the rest of their family deny annie altman's inheritance? it's not like they need the money themselves

either this annie character is making stuff up, or the whole rest of her family are some kind of comic book villains

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by sudosysgen on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @12:24PM (#38382102)
I haven't read enough into the story to make up an opinion. However, purely based on what you're saying, that's completely normal abuser behaviour. You wouldn't be denying the inheritance to enrich yourself, but rather to prevent someone from becoming economically empowered and reducing your power over them. It's a very common tactic.
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by subpixel on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:02PM (#38383589)
While it’s true that all unhappy families are unhappy in their own way, this sort of seemingly illogical vindictiveness is exceedingly common.
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by jstarfish on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:20PM (#38383815)
> why would sam altman and the rest of their family deny annie altman's inheritance? [...] either this annie character is making stuff up, or the whole rest of her family are some kind of comic book villains

She's done something to alienate herself from the family. Usual reason is drugs, but given that she's publicly braying about being molested I'd bet that she's told similar stories about other family members, internally, prior to this. (ed: she also made the same allegations against her other brother too. Damn I'm good.)

Look at the number of people ascribing manipulative behavior to Sammy. This sort of thing runs in families.

Or look at the verbiage of the allegation itself:

> I’m not four years old with a 13 year old “brother” climbing into my bed non-consensually anymore. (You’re welcome for helping you figure out your sexuality.) I’ve finally accepted that you’ve always been and always will be more scared of me than I’ve been of you.

Nowhere in there does she actually say he did anything more than get in bed with her. She just implies it, and our minds are filling in the rest, giving her plausible deniability against making such a claim. It's fuckary.

(edit2) Even better, from https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...:

> "Annie had (and still was having?) extremely intense, nearly all-day PTSD flashbacks of the sexual assault she experienced in her childhood from Sam Altman, plus other forms of assault from all members of her nuclear family (except her Dad, I think.)"

Everyone wants a piece of Little Annie Altman, it seems. Histrionic personality disorder (and PTSD!) is treated with...Zoloft, dispensing of which was also considered "abuse" in her claims.

> Our Dad’s ashes being turned into diamonds (not his wishes) and that being offered to me instead of money for rent and groceries and physical therapy says more about me?

lol. The Altmans know how to push the buttons of someone with a spending problem.

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by mostin on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @07:33PM (#38387482)
I could imagine that if they think she's behaving erratically, and would spend the money on falling apart even more, then they don't think it's right to give it to her.

For example if they know she has a drug problem and would put herself in an early grave if she received millions of dollars (just theorizing, I don't know anything about their situation).

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by whatyesaid on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @08:42PM (#38388110)
I don't know much about her but just the fact she does OnlyFans is enough to cut you out of most families. The type of person who actually goes through with that would either be in big financial need or a general life philosophy most people in society disagree with
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by dwaltrip on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @12:58PM (#38382606)
Is there any major news reporting on the Annie Altman stuff? That looks like front page material to me.
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by johnnyworker on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:31PM (#38386103)
from the second link:

> Besides Elizabeth Weil's nymag article (here), there has been virtually zero (mainstream) media coverage of the extremely serious claims that Annie has consistently made many, many times against Sam Altman over the past 4 years.

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by charred_patina on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:21PM (#38382963)
He has always creeped me out. The way pg talks about him is meant to be an endorsement, but it makes Sam seem like a Svengali whose main quality is the ability to manipulate and get what he wants.
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by lordfrito on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:41PM (#38383271)
Also he does seem to have "crazy eyes" [1].... Yeah it's not entirely scientific but a lot of manipulative exec types have them. Elizabeth Holmes comes to mind...

[1] https://www.insider.com/you-can-spot-psychopaths-by-looking-...

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by mcpackieh on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:05PM (#38384408)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanpaku

> According to Chinese/Japanese medical [...] when the upper sclera is visible it is said to be an indication of mental imbalance in people such as psychotics, murderers, and anyone rageful. In either condition, it is believed that these people attract accidents and violence.

It might not be scientific but people with this look certainly do freak me out. (FWIW, I haven't seen any images of Sam with these eyes.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Applewhite#/media/Fil...

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by aifooh7Keew6xoo on Friday November 24, 2023 @06:06AM (#38402719)
I find the omission of the term "face reading" from the punch line "medical face reading" to be a curious editorial choice
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by mcpackieh on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:22AM (#38404227)
My intention was to chop out everything about the "whites below the eyes" version of it, because it's the "whites above the eyes" variant that is relevant to the discussion above. This kind of analysis is not medical at all, it's "traditional medicine". If "traditional medicine" were real medicine, it wouldn't be called traditional. To call something "Chinese/Japanese medicine" amounts to the same, not real medicine. If "Chinese/Japanese medicine" were real medicine, it would just be called medicine.

Also I said after that quote that it's not scientific, but it nevertheless seems true. That's my editorial take.

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by civilitty on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:37PM (#38384757)
Paging your friendly neighborhood phrenologist! Have you measured the shape of Altman's head yet?
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by VeejayRampay on Thursday November 23, 2023 @12:55AM (#38389792)
it's zero percent scientific actually
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by cactusplant7374 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:45PM (#38383343)
Elon is incredibly jealous of Sam. That is why he posted the gist.
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by greyface- on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:09PM (#38383662)
> "strangely" that Gist was deleted

The Gist was posted by HN user xena and deleted after Elon's tweet led to a deluge of transphobic comments being left on it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38371837

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by rurp on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:59PM (#38385022)
Wow, that's some incredibly damning stuff, especially from his own sister. I'm a bit surprised to have never heard about any of this before, but I guess the kind of influence Sam has can be pretty effective.
Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by Rastonbury on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @09:11PM (#38388342)
WaPo is a decent outlet, which means they would verify through multiple sources before posting something that could smear someone. They very likely know about it but if the story is not corroborated by anyone else or public records, the writers/editors would never publish