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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by upupupandaway on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:13AM (#38359595)
I find it absolutely fascinating that Emmett accepted this position. He can game all scenarios and there is no way that he can come out ahead on any of them. One would expect an experienced Silicon Valley CEO to make this calculus and realize it's a lost cause. The fact he accepted to me shows he's not a particularly good leader.
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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by tw1984 on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:39AM (#38359805)
He made it pretty clear that he consider it as a once in a life time chance.

I think he is correct, being the CEO twitch is a position known by no one in many places, e.g. how many developers/users in China even heard of Twitch? Being the CEO of OpenAI is a completely different story, it is a whole new level he can leverage in the years to come.

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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by ps256 on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @03:50AM (#38361096)
It seems kind of naive to think that he'll be CEO for long, or if it is for long, that there will be much company left to be a CEO of.
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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by tw1984 on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @04:23AM (#38361357)
why he needs to be CEO for long?

If everything goes well, he can claim that he is the man behind all these to reunite the OpenAI team. If something goes wrong, well, no one is going to blame him, the board screwed the entire business. He is more like a emergency room doctor who failed to save a poor dude who just intentionally shot himself in the head with a shotgun.

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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by ps256 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:41AM (#38377502)
> If everything goes well, he can claim that he is the man behind all these to reunite the OpenAI team.

It's now one day later and Altman is back as CEO - what can Emmett Shear claim exactly?

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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by tw1984 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @11:51PM (#38389431)
> what can Emmett Shear claim exactly?

- helped to stabilized the situation

- the first to propose the idea of independent investigation into the matter

- sided with impacted employees all the way through such difficult moments

- supported a smooth transition period

depending on how he reacted when 90% employees signed that letter asking for altman's return, don't be too surprised if he claims to be guy how helped to push for that as well.

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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by khazhoux on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @03:17AM (#38360857)
> he consider it as a once in a life time chance.

Like taking a sword to the gut.

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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by bmitc on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:52AM (#38359890)
That seems kind of silly to say. He's not a good leader because he's taking on a challenge?
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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by upupupandaway on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @01:08AM (#38359987)
A challenge he can't win, brought in by people 90% of the company hates, and with the four most influential people in the company either gone or having turned on the board does not sound like a "challenge" but more like a "guaranteed L".
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