People who try to drive six, eight hours without a break put themselves at danger, but also everyone around them.

I suspect insurance companies see the forced 20 minute break every five hours as a feature not a bug.

Can you not accept that other people have different needs than you? Some people do 350+ mile one way trips regularly, not "once in a blue moon" and EVs are just less convenent for them. I have trips like that at least monthly, sometimes weekly. I can do that on a single tank of fuel and not have to worry about finding a charger along the way or when I arrive or if my hotel will even have working chargers (I'm sure some hotels offer this but I personally have never seen it and I stay at moderately decent hotel like Hampton Inn).

Yeah but if charging stations become as ubiquitous as gas stations, this becomes a lot less of an issue.

And quite frankly my 10-gallon tank has like a 400 mile range, and newer electric cars have like a 300 mile range, so the gap is getting pretty narrow.

95% of people commenting on this thread live within a short drive of the Amtrak North East corridor and absolutely should convert to an EV as fast as possible. For people who dont live in the NY megolopolis... the factors are different.

Anyone have stats on the overall audience of HN? I'd have guessed it to be very west coast heavy.

It's a bit dated, but much more international than you realise, especially if you tend to read at the same time of day.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16633521

I'm commenting and I don't even know what that is. I'm guessing it's thousands of kilometers away from me.

You make a good point that different people have different needs, and everyone tends to argue from their own perspective. And, like you, I would not rely on hotel chargers.

However ... if you drive a Tesla, there are very few places in the United States where you would have to "worry about finding a charger along the way." Enter your destination in the nav, and it will pick a convenient Supercharger for you.

You're probably not planning on converting to a BEV anytime soon, but check out Tesla's trip planner on your monthly 350+ mile drive. I think you'll be surprised.

https://www.tesla.com/trips

The number of times people have to wait 40 minutes for their 15 minute charge is definitely non-zero

Nobody has factored in the child tax!

You go to a gas station, kid is there, he wants a snack or magazine. Multiplied by the number of kids.

Charge at home and kid gets nothing.

>You go to a gas station, kid is there, he wants a snack or magazine. Multiplied by the number of kids.

There is a simple answer to that.

Oh here we go.

"I can just say no when the kid is unreasonable"

"My kid is not gonna have an iPad"

"My kid is gonna do his homework"

"My kid is gonna be polite"

What do you suppose parents have already tried?

Or did you mean don't have kids?

You can just say no. Sometimes they will have a tantrum. It’s not the end of the world.

On the other hand if you continually indulge them then you can only expect one outcome.

Rock and a hard place. Being unreasonable is a great negotiating position, and has worked for children as well as terrorists.