Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem

Re:Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem by calciphus on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @02:54PM (#38281520)

Because interoperable communication systems are supposed to be core to getting to use all that government-allocated public infrastructure (like phone networks, wireless spectrum, etc). That Apple intentionally degrades the experience for interacting with non-customers is "malicious compliance". Only implementing the oldest standard at the minimal level is worthy of ridicule.

If AT&T started introducing delays, message duplication, degrading image and video quality, etc whenever you messaged a non-AT&T customer, HN would be up in arms. But because the world's most valuable company does it they get a pass?

I don't care if Apple let's me use iMessage. I care that they won't implement RCS or let users change the messaging protocol handler on their phone purely for anticompetitive reasons.

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Re:Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem by joshmanders on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @03:03PM (#38281660)

> If AT&T started introducing delays, message duplication, degrading image and video quality, etc whenever you messaged a non-AT&T customer

Except Apple isn't doing any of that. I have zero issues texting with my non-iOS friends, only difference is I don't get the extra goodies that iMessages brings to the table with them.

> I care that they won't implement RCS or let users change the messaging protocol handler on their phone purely for anticompetitive reasons.

Uhhhhh they don't discourage any of that. I have Google Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, Telegram, Slack, WhatsApp, all those options. I just can't send them from a single app.

You are totally free to change your messaging handler by choosing the app of the messaging platform you prefer to use.

You're literally upset because you can't use Telegram inside iMessage? lmfao.

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Re:Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem by pseudalopex on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @04:00PM (#38282422)

They want Apple to let people use SMS in Telegram. Not Telegram in Messages.

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Re:Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem by joshmanders on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @04:43PM (#38282981)

Telegram can't send SMS?

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Re:Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem by pseudalopex on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @04:51PM (#38283077)

iOS restricts SMS to the Messages app.

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Re:Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem by no_wizard on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @06:00PM (#38283768)

More specifically, Apple does not allow other apps to access the SMS capabilities of the device.

Technically, if you have a tap in for SMS sending say, via a server relay, you can absolutely use other apps to send SMS messages.

I think Apple has good reasons for not allowing 3rd party apps to directly use the SMS functionality, namely prevents issues with 3rd party apps maliciously using the functionality to send spam messages, for example

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Re:Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem by pseudalopex on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @06:51PM (#38284077)

Technically a 3rd party app iOS app could control Messages running on a remote Mac. But it would be misleading to say 3rd party iOS apps are allowed to send iMessage messages.

Apple should ban SMS relay apps and 3rd party email apps by your logic.

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Re:Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem by pseudalopex on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @03:53PM (#38282324)

What wireless frequencies were allocated to Apple?

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