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Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by haunter on Monday November 13, 2023 @10:51AM (#38251564)
Some interesting comments about the plural of die, apparently all three forms are commonly used (die, dies, dice)
Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by Finnucane on Monday November 13, 2023 @11:29AM (#38252010)
In all my years in publishing, I've never heard anyone refer to jacket/spine stamping dies as dice.
Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by MakeThemMoney on Monday November 13, 2023 @11:33AM (#38252056)
> Heard

Don't they sound the same?

Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by Finnucane on Monday November 13, 2023 @11:39AM (#38252136)
Not in an email. Also, no, the pronunciation is distinct. At least around here.
Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by pwagland on Monday November 13, 2023 @11:36AM (#38252102)
Funnily enough, I would argue that dice and dies sound different

dies daɪz dice daɪs

Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by HNDen21 on Monday November 13, 2023 @11:53AM (#38252286)
To me the i sound is shorter for dice versus dies
Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by BenjiWiebe on Monday November 13, 2023 @10:43PM (#38258835)
Prize vs price (US English)
Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by polishdude20 on Monday November 13, 2023 @11:03AM (#38251714)
Dice? That's if you're talking about rolling the dice. Is it really used for these types of "dies"?
Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by calamari4065 on Monday November 13, 2023 @05:56PM (#38256527)
Technically die is the singular and dice is the plural form of the cubes you roll for numbers.

Then there's the other die, as in die-cast. I think these are typically referred to as dies in the plural. I'm not sure if this terminology is still in use, it seems to have been replaced with mold.

Then the other other die, referring to the fragment of silicon inside an integrated circuit. I've seen dice used more commonly, but both forms are in active use.

It's one of those frustrating inconsistencies of the English language.

Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by Doxin on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @05:41AM (#38261599)
> Then there's the other die, as in die-cast. I think these are typically referred to as dies in the plural. I'm not sure if this terminology is still in use, it seems to have been replaced with mold.

I think die is still used when referring to metal stamping equipment and similar, but casting equipment is usually referred to with mold.

Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by ooterness on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:09PM (#38252463)
Linguistic drift IMHO. Formally, "dice" is the plural of "die". Less formally, "dice" are cubes with numbers on them and "die" is a completely separate word.
Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by someone7x on Monday November 13, 2023 @03:41PM (#38255102)
I’ve heard “dice” for singles: you’ll need to roll one dice here.

I never asked, but I want to believe their internal representation of “1D6” is one-dice-six.

Sorta like reading “1 x 6” as “one _times_ six” instead of “one _time_ six”

Words are fun.

Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by dist-epoch on Monday November 13, 2023 @02:13PM (#38253970)
More and more English speakers (and readers) are not native. They are more likely to use (and understand) -s plurals.
Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by Erratic6576 on Monday November 13, 2023 @04:59PM (#38255957)
Yeah Languages with histories of adult learning have been argued to be morphologically simpler, less redundant, and more regular/transparent [2], [7], [28]–[30].

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...

Re:Micron Introduces 128 GB DDR5-8000 RDIMMs with Monolithic... by Clamchop on Monday November 13, 2023 @07:26PM (#38257242)
Native speakers are of course also very likely to pluralize nouns in the regular way when they don't know the irregular form. Usually, only very common nouns can sustain irregular pluralization. Perhaps dice carries on at all because it is often used both as the singular and plural.

I can't see any reason to think that native speakers are changing their patterns much because of what non-native speakers do or understand.