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Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by orangecat on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:03PM (#38209373)
a company that behaves this way should be run out of town

It's literally illegal to treat contractors too well.

Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by gumby on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:13PM (#38209510)
But remember that is because these companies were exploiting the use of contractors to deny them employee protections.

True contractors won’t care: they work for themselves and have multiple clients anyway. These people are employees in all but name, so that the companies can save money and other protections. A small slip up by Google (Apple/FB/MS/tons of others) and these folks get the protection they deserve.

Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by ethbr1 on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:42PM (#38210022)
Exactly. The mistake was thinking that the responsibility stemmed from the employeeing entity.

It shouldn't.

It's clearly more linked to the type and structure of work performed.

Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by bentt on Thursday November 09, 2023 @04:28PM (#38211615)
Yeah being an actual contractor/consultant should feel GOOD. You should not be married to a single company for too long. You should have a sense of freedom.

There should be a simple test that if a person is working at only one client for too long (3 mo?) then they are to be converted to an employee. There's no reason for these middleman employers to exist except to make people disposable to companies. If that's the case, then they should be cycled in and out with a higher frequency. Nobody should remain a "red badge" at Google for any significant length of time.

Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by unixhero on Friday November 10, 2023 @01:57AM (#38215941)
Yes the reason is high risk high reward for the contractor - much higher salary.
Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by saagarjha on Friday November 10, 2023 @03:18AM (#38216416)
> True contractors won’t care: they work for themselves and have multiple clients anyway.

Some companies will even go as far as to prevent you from having multiple clients. Try asking anyone who contracts for Apple if they have any side work…

Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by mikeyouse on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:23PM (#38209650)
It's not illegal - they'd just have to provide them employee-like benefits which would be expensive. So it's just costly to treat contractors too well.
Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by eloisant on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:37PM (#38209925)
I think the way it works is that if they provide some benefits, then they would have to make them into FTE and give them all the benefits.
Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by thomasahle on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:57PM (#38210266)
Exactly. And that's perfectly legal to do.
Re:What I learned getting acquired by Google by lazide on Thursday November 09, 2023 @10:15PM (#38214672)
Sure, but then those folks wouldn’t likely be employed.