The problem with the group 4 definition is it is a mix of things that are genuinely harmful, things that are completely irrelevant to the health of a given food item, and broad, vague definitions that could be used to describe almost any prepared food item as “ultra-processed” if one were so inclined.
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Yes, I agree that group 4 is very broad, but I think as an initial attempt its good. Breaking things down into further groups is going to confuse people a lot more, especially because there are no distinct categories here. Too much overlap. Just asking people to eat less of group 4 is a much more reasonable public health objective.
You'll never guess what is extracted from the fruit when you do this.
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The irony here is that the more processed pectins can be used to reduce the amount of sugar in homemade jams (while still maintaining a jam-like consistency.)