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Re:Dietary guidelines may soon warn against ultraprocessed f... by marcus0x62 on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @08:52PM (#38200002)
This commercial jam[0] is made with exactly the same ingredients as would be used to make home-made jam. It is Nova Group 4.

The problem with the group 4 definition is it is a mix of things that are genuinely harmful, things that are completely irrelevant to the health of a given food item, and broad, vague definitions that could be used to describe almost any prepared food item as “ultra-processed” if one were so inclined.

0 - https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/0096619217939/organi...

Re:Dietary guidelines may soon warn against ultraprocessed f... by abdullahkhalids on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @10:08PM (#38200642)
I make jam at home. I usually just heat the fruit (strawberries, raspberries etc) alone, with not even added sugar. That's group 1. If I add sugar, it becomes group 3. If I did add pectin for some reason, it becomes group 4.

Yes, I agree that group 4 is very broad, but I think as an initial attempt its good. Breaking things down into further groups is going to confuse people a lot more, especially because there are no distinct categories here. Too much overlap. Just asking people to eat less of group 4 is a much more reasonable public health objective.

Re:Dietary guidelines may soon warn against ultraprocessed f... by marcus0x62 on Thursday November 09, 2023 @09:06PM (#38214231)
> I make jam at home. I usually just heat the fruit (strawberries, raspberries etc) alone, with not even added sugar.

You'll never guess what is extracted from the fruit when you do this.