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Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by cptcobalt on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:13AM (#38192490)
I know it's a distraction and orthogonal to your point, but your statement of a "key fob for your Tesla for $300" is fallacious and incorrect. Tesla uses Phone Key with with the Tesla app as your primary method of unlocking the car, with a $20 NFC card as fallback, and the limit of paired phones is above any practical real-world use. If you want a keyfob as a status symbol, it's $175. (Mine is a desk ornament, it doesn't get used.)

Swap in a more traditional automaker, and your point remains correct.

Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by cyberax on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:42AM (#38192951)
> If you want a keyfob as a status symbol, it's $175. (Mine is a desk ornament, it doesn't get used.)

The keyfob is super-useful. It fits perfectly into that small jeans pocket (that was originally meant for watches), so you can trigger the trunk/frunk opening without taking the fob (or phone) out.

Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by dburkland on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:21PM (#38193677)
You can also trigger those same functions via a smart watch or mobile phone using Siri shortcuts (if you're an iOS user).
Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by doctorpangloss on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:10PM (#38193472)
Yes, I mean surely Chamberlain could maintain a correct and official API endpoint for HomeAssistant users for the kopecks it would cost. It’s all a big money grab.

I was burned by this change. I don’t know if anyone at Chamberlain is reading this, but you guys have neighbors, users just wanna keep their home safe. You’re one TikTok away from a crisis when you do stuff that is anti-consumer.

Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by paulgerhardt on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @01:40PM (#38194887)
Since you pointed it out, it’s actually very much part of my point. Tesla engages in price segmentation for replacement key fobs because they have key control.

Premium users pay $300 to replace the fob on their Model S / Model X. Mid users pay $175 to replace the fob on the Model 3 / Model Y. And an entry level option exists for the cards. Plus programming fee. Handling fee. Local taxes. Processing fee. Etc :-)

Without control of their PKI anyone could self program a replacement for a few dollars as is the case with the garage door market.

As an aside, I find the fob useful for booting the car up prior to getting in, rather than waiting 40 seconds before the fly-by-wire shifter starts responding to commands to put it in gear.

Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by andykellr on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:31PM (#38195691)
> And an entry level option exists for the cards. Plus programming fee. Handling fee. Local taxes. Processing fee. Etc :-)

Cards are $20. No programming fee, no handling fee, no processing fee. Yes, there are taxes and yes shipping things generally costs money. Users program keys themselves.

> As an aside, I find the fob useful for booting the car up prior to getting in, rather than waiting 40 seconds before the fly-by-wire shifter starts responding to commands to put it in gear.

Keys are for valet and I keep mine in my glove box. The car boots up almost instantly.