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Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by giancarlostoro on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:20PM (#38124053)
I'm not a ham operator, though I debated it a few years ago, I just don't even know where to start, and have zero equipment. I wonder if a better email would be to match your call sign, I assume you have to announce it when communicating with new people? Or am I making a bad assumption, even so, that would maybe make it much easier for someone to figure out how to get to you via email.
Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by thcipriani on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:37PM (#38124179)
If you're in the US, spend a weekend doing flashcards on https://hamstudy.org/ then find an exam to get your ticket.

Buy a cheapo handy-talky. Use radioreference to find your local repeaters. And get on the air!

You are required to announce your call sign. And you can find anyone by their call sign in the FCC's Universal License System.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by crossroadsguy on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:53PM (#38124290)
Is there a primer somewhere that tells us someone, who is interested but knows pretty much nothing about all this yet, what all this means?

As in what are the equipments one must have (as bare minimum), or should have, what are the daily uses (other than things like helping out during disaster etc)? What are the fun aspects of it - for someone who is setting into and not from an “old timer’s” pov?

I am mostly curious about what it would be mean to use it actually. Will one need to have huge antennas and consoles etc? Or something handheld works and if it’s handheld then how short the range is?

Whenever I try to read about it, almost everywhere it immediately becomes pedantic and jargon filled.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by piperswe on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:18AM (#38124465)
Ham Radio is incredibly diverse, and different people get different things out of it.

Many people get a basic license and use a handheld radio to talk to people in their area through a "repeater" (basically a big range extender) on VHF/UHF frequencies (~140MHz or ~440MHz) - that'll give you several miles of range to chat with locals.

You can go further and get a mobile or home base station with a fancy antenna to get more range, while still essentially doing the same thing.

A lot of people have fun with "DXing" (distance communications). There are a few different approaches to DXing. Most people set up a home or mobile base station with a big (but can be very cheap, just a wire) antenna for use on lower frequency bands ("HF"; from a couple MHz to a couple dozen), which can have much higher range than VHF/UHF. There are some people that use atmospheric conditions to get higher range on VHF/UHF though.

Some others connect their radio (handheld or base station) to their computer to set up long range computer networks.

There are endless other uses, but a common thread is that they're quite technical and it's very personality driven. If you're a computer enthusiast, you might enjoy mesh networks, AX.25 (networking protocol), or FT-8 (extremely durable protocol for low power long range DXing). If you like building things, building your own radios and antennae can be fun. And if you just like talking to similarly nerdy people, you can grab a handheld and get chatting.

I personally am looking to get into DXing with FT-8 soon - I want to put together a mobile setup that runs completely offline. FT-8 requires a synchronized clock (within 1s accuracy) so I want to get a laptop set up with GPS time. Then, I've gotta find a radio I can rig up to the laptop, probably at a hamfest flea market. The ultimate result of that is that I'll be able to communicate directly with other hams on the other side of the globe (ideally!) from a laptop in my car.

In the Internet age, ham radio isn't really all that practical. It's fun to tinker with though!

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by bmitch2112 on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:22AM (#38130167)
I've setup quite a light mobile FT-8 setup in case you are interested.

I'm using the FT8CN Android app and a truSDX radio. USB cable from the radio into my phone powers the radio as well as sends/receives the audio.

For antenna I'm just using a hamstick on the roof.

This only puts out about half a watt but I was getting out about 2500-3000km away. You could then have an alternative power source like a battery to get around 5 watts.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by piperswe on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:07PM (#38135023)
I hadn't heard of the truSDX - I'll probably pick one up! Seems like the cheapest new HF radio with computer control out there, sounds perfect for getting started. I would assume I can connect it to a 12V socket in my car for full power.
Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by bmitch2112 on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:12PM (#38135070)
Yep I love it for FT8. Fun little radio to play around with. If you want any more info my email is in my bio, feel free to email me.
Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by wiml on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:13AM (#38124434)
It's such a broad hobby that there isn't really a least common denominator. The easiest way to get into it is probably voice chat on VHF — a cheap Baofeng brand handheld radio and a license will get you on the air and you can decide if you want to spend a few hundred USD on a better radio.

But these days, a lot of stuff can be done using cellular+internet that used to be the domain of hams. Voice comms can be fun (the local repeater nets kept me sane during pandemic isolation) but they're not exotic any more. The other corners of the hobby are kind of esoteric. It's hard to say what might interest you.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by Dalewyn on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:22AM (#38124498)
>But these days, a lot of stuff can be done using cellular+internet that used to be the domain of hams.

My father, who is a ham operator, likes saying "I can just Skype you on your phone." as a joking rebuke to most things ham radio.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by Dalewyn on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:15AM (#38124442)
Not a ham myself, but my father is. With that context, as far as I understand:

* Minimum equipment necessary is as simple as a walkie talkie, though if you want to have an actual "radio station" per se you need an antenna and a transceiver and the wiring to hook it all up. Note that a ham license concerns transmitting radio signals, if all you want to do is just receive ham radio signals you don't need a license.

* Ham radio exists for anything that falls under communications. Communications during an emergency is an oft cited use case, but if you just want to talk shit with your ham friend across the continent or even the world one random Tuesday evening that's perfectly fine too.

* The fun aspects of ham radio lie in the electrical engineering aspect and the communication aspect. You need to have proper understanding of all things electricity to fully understand and appreciate what goes into transmitting radio waves, and that might be something you find fun. If you find the idea of talking to someone just because you can fun, that's also something ham radio can satisfy.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by blackfawn on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:56AM (#38124700)
There are a number of intros to ham radio, ARRL has https://www.arrl.org/what-is-ham-radio but searching for "intro to ham radio" will give you plenty of hits. Also YouTube channels such as hamradiomadesimple, TheSmokinApe, HamRadioCrashCourse, etc. also may be of interest.

As far as activities, the sky isn't even the limit! Sort of a joke there as there are all sorts of radio astronomy / space-related RF, a few are: bouncing signals off meteor trails and aurora, communicating w/ satellites and the ISS, pulling weather imagery straight from NOAA satellites, conducting EME ("earth-moon-earth") communications, the list goes on.

You really don't need huge antennas or anything like that unless you start getting into something very specific and/or high power. Even using the lower frequency band (still called "HF" high frequency), you can use a very small diameter wire that you can temporarily toss up in a tree and talk to people around the world. The length of that wire grows the lower in frequency you are operating but it's still a small light wire you can wind up and toss in a pack.

You can buy a Baofeng UV5R handheld ("HT") for under $20 USD and start listening to people on local repeaters and listen in on weekly "nets" conducted on those repeaters straight away. A repeater is just a powerful station that is ideally somewhere high that rebroadcasts your communication to a wider area than a handheld could do. You'll see some criticism of that radio and other budget radios by some of the more grumpier types but they are a great way to get started for not a lot of money. You can also listen to NOAA radio weather reports with one, which is particularly useful if you are in an emergency situation, power outage, etc. If you get licensed (hamstudy.org is a great resource for this) then you can talk on those repeaters and direct ("simplex") to other local hams.

That Baofeng handheld operates on VHF and UHF bands, specifically the 2 meter band and 70 cm bands (you'll typically see bands listed in meters and millimeters, this is roughly how long the radio wave [wavelength] is for that band - e.g. 2 meter band is 144 MHz to 148 MHz, and a 148 MHz radio wave is 2.053373 meters long) These bands aren't really great for long distance communication. You can make/buy an antenna and make a contact with the astronauts on the ISS though!

Depending on your interests, it's a lot of fun building radios from kits or completely doing it yourself. There's a whole subset of "QRP" (reduced power) communications where people use tiny low power radios and still make contacts around the world. There's an activity called POTA (Parks On The Air) and SOTA (Summits On The Air) where people will set up in a park or on a mountaintop and try and make as many contacts as they can in a period. You'll often see them using small QRP low-power radios.

You can send images and video (SSTV - Slow Scan TV and ATV - Amateur Fast Scan TV) over the air, there are lots of digital modes / packet radio where you can send emails, messages, and a plethora of other activities.

SDR (Software Defined Radio) is fun as well, they are basically USB sticks you can hook up to a computer and receive a wide range of signals. I run one that monitors for ADS-B beacons on nearby aircraft and I feed that to some of the flight tracking sites. You can listen to shortwave broadcasts from other countries and pretty much everything mentioned above (and more!) You can check out some online at http://websdr.org/

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by jodrellblank on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:27AM (#38128408)
If you want to bike, the bare minimum is "any bike". It's too small? Someone else bought a BMX to have a small bike. You find one in the scrap that's rusty? Someone else enjoys cleaning the rust off and tidying up old bikes. You find one with a single working gear? Someone else busy is turning their bike into a single-gear fixie to save weight. Someone recommends you a heavy but solid mountain bike, someone else recommends you a light road bike - they are at odds, how do you choose? You ask what are the daily uses of a bike and people will tell you commuting and grocery shopping and transport, but those aren't the hobby of biking - nobody commutes as a hobby. Hobbies are "playing with the thing" and play is personal. You ask what the point of riding 50 miles in a day is, people might tell you it's for exercise but exercise isn't a hobby - or rather, people whose hobby is exercise are the people who are pedantic and jargon filled about exercise things like VO2max and HIIT schedules and etc. The point of hobbies is that you spend your time doing thing-you-like-doing and if you have a geeky personality that generally means taking an interest in the pedantic intricate details of thing-you-like-doing.

"In ancient Etruscan they actually had a word ending for differentiating between a <grammar jargon> and <a grammar jargon> but it was only used on Holy days in one province and..."

"ok but who cares? where's the fun in that?"

"That is the fun in that!"

"What daily use is it?"

"..."

The job of programming is to build what your employer pays you for, but the hobby of programming is "can I build a trie in my favourite weirdo language so I can understand how tries work?" and "can I get this Arduino to run my code if I'm only willing to power it with this small spare solar panel?" and "can I get JavaScript and WebGL to draw the Julia Fractal with GPU acceleration just to see if I can do it?" and "can I make a playable game in a pure functional language and how will I manage game state to do that?" and there's no daily use for these things, they are wildly different. Yes you can use (language, data structure, algorithm, technology) in your day job, but that's not really the point. In that case it's job training not hobby. The point of them as a hobby isn't to achieve things it's to spend your time doing thing you find interesting. (Yes, some people like achieving things as a hobby and work on OSS tools as if it were their job).

Looking for a daily use of a hobby is looking for the wrong thing, and looking for other people's fun to copy is also looking for the wrong thing. You can't ape other people's fun, because you aren't other people.

My dad volunteers for amateur radio as a method of comms at rural events, but they all bring cellphones because they are better for comms. The radio is an excuse to get out to the event, and the event is an excuse to play with radio. He also takes part in a friendly competition to take portable radio gear up hills and make contact from the top. The radio is a reason to get outside and climb a hill, the competition is a reason to take some radio gear and play with radio. And it's run from the internet and smart phones because they're better for organizing and reliable fast comms.

> "I am mostly curious about what it would be mean to use it actually."

Some people buy a radio and sit in a shed and talk, some people limit themselves to Morse code and try to communicate over noisy channels, some people try to connect to people as far away as possible using limited radio power, some people track the atmosphere conditions and try to bounce radio waves off the upper atmosphere to make long range communications, some people pack portable equipment and climb hills and make radio contact from the top to get points in friendly competitions, some people find old equipment from junk sales and challenge themselves to make it work and connect it up to whatever else they have, some people like to argue about which manufacturer is better and which technology is needed.

The hobby originally (a century ago) was "wtf is radio??" and the bare minimum isn't any specific product or technology, it's an interest in wireless electricity and a thread that interests you to pull on.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by klinquist on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:16AM (#38130067)
I'd be happy to exchange emails or even hop on a zoom with you to talk about ham radio! Let me know. I've given presentations to various groups to demystify it a bit.
Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by bmitch2112 on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:25AM (#38130214)
For me (relatively young, definitely in the ham radio circles) I like two activities: Summits on the Air and Parks on the Air.

Summits on the Air - take your gear to a mountain summit and attempt to make at least 4 contacts.

Parks on the Air - take your gear to a state/federal/provincial/national park and attempt to make at least 10 contacts.

Check out Ham Radio Crash Course on YouTube. He has a bunch of great stuff for people interested. From there hopefully one of the areas will pique your interest and you can go down the rabbit hole from there.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by vvoid on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:35PM (#38131160)
Amateur radio is a series of narrow regulatory carve-outs of the radio spectrum for the public good, somewhat like a national park. It has existed since the discovery of radio itself. RF is now a mature formal engineering discipline, but the underlying knowledge and practice has also been passed down through amateur channels for generations in an almost guild-like fashion. It is now one of the very few sanctioned ways in which a person interested in radio may put their own electrical components together and see how it works on a workbench.

In the US there are two major distinctions between licenses. The basic Technician class license mainly lets you access VHF and up - these radio waves propagate based on line of sight. The general focus in this area of the spectrum comes from the sheer utility of radio.

Then, the General and Extra class licenses let you operate more fully on shortwave. These are lower frequencies that interact with the ionosphere, giving them the curious property of reaching around the planet. (Extra opens up a little more spectrum, and is recognized by some international treaties allowing you to operate while abroad).

The basic starter equipment for a technician is a handheld or mobile radio. The line-of-sight limitation on VHF is overcome by the use of repeaters. A no-stakes way to sample the activity in your vicinity is to get an RTL-SDR dongle and tune in to the 2 meter and 70 cm amateur bands.

The classic starter kit for a general is an HF radio and homemade dipole. The radio will realistically cost a couple hundred dollars, but the antenna can be just scrap wire and modest coax cable. The size of the antenna is determined by the wavelength at which it operates. The two most common beginner bands are 20M and 40M. A dipole for those wavelengths is about 33' and 66' of wire respectively, but the wire does not have to run in a straight line. You can use a WebSDR to peek in on the activity for free.

My personal interest in all of this is SOTA -- Summits On The Air. It is a radio sport that involves taking portable shortwave transmitters up to mountain peaks. It is equal parts exploration, since many of the peaks in my region lack even trail access; and invention, as the physical realities of mountain climbing necessitate radios and antennas made for the purpose. The actual radio exchange from the peak is simple - who is calling, how well they can hear you, and where they are located, and maybe a pleasantry or two. There is a great deal of camaraderie from the other operators, and you never know whether your next contact will come from San Francisco or coastal France.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by robcohen on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:27PM (#38124108)
Check out the ARRL website. They have a few ham radio Technician class (lowest class) books that you can study and take the test with. https://www.arrl.org/getting-your-technician-license

Once you pass, you can use some of the ham radio bands. Plenty of guides on reddit on how to start.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by mal10c on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:28PM (#38124120)
For ham operators, there's Winlink, which is an email system that uses ham frequencies to exchange messages. And yep, there are rules where you need to say your call sign periodically, and Winlink does that on your behalf.
Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by mike_d on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:59PM (#38124330)
If you happen to attend DEFCON the Ham Radio Village is awesome. They run exams you can take and will help you to understand any questions you missed. https://hamvillage.org/
Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by jonah on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:59PM (#38124331)
Study for both the Technician and General licenses. I think it's universal that if you pass the Tech, you can take the General at the same time for free.

The tests are 35(IIRC) multiple choice questions out of a pool of several hundred.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by Crunchified on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:59AM (#38124714)
Perhaps an overview of FCC amateur radio licensing in the U.S. is in order:

The (entry level) Technician license gives ALL amateur privileges above 30 MHz - that's the bottom of the VHF region and up. So that's all VHF, UHF, and microwave bands and modes (FM, sideband, AM, digital...) allocated to U.S. hams, at maximum power levels permitted to hams. Small allocations in a few HF bands below 30 MHz with limited power levels and modes are also included to offer Technician class licensees a taste of shortwave operations.

The General license adds access to much (or all) of each HF (shortwave) amateur radio band (frequencies lower than 30 MHz), including all the modes permitted there, and full power. Having access to all the ham HF bands means you can choose the band that is working best for you at any given time.

The Amateur Extra license adds access to the remaining parts of HF bands that are not fully allocated to General licensees. In other words, there's some "Extra only" sections of several popular HF bands. There's a handful of other minor privileges as well, not directly related to frequencies, power, or modes.

The Technician license requirements must be completed before taking the General exam, just as General is required for Amateur Extra. However, all three tests may be taken at one exam session as long as each respective test gets a passing score (70% or better).

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by wiml on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:59PM (#38124334)
Yeah, I'm a little surprised if ARRL doesn't have a way to get forwarding setup for <callsign>@arrl.org or something. Every call sign has an associated (postal) mailing address that's public information anyway.
Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by Crunchified on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:20AM (#38124480)
ARRL members do indeed receive <callsign>@arrl.net email forwarding as a benefit, should they choose to use it.
Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by jonah on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:06AM (#38124381)
Find your local clubs and go to some meetings or see what kinds of things they are doing. I did a lot of infrastructure work - bringing my existing skills and going to remote mountain tops to climb towers and hang antennas and long distance (25+ mile) data links.

Other people like to see how many distant contacts they can make, others are into mesh networking and others doing communications for events like marathons.

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by rhinoceraptor on Friday November 03, 2023 @01:10AM (#38124772)
If you're coming at RF/radio stuff from more of the programming side, SDRs might be a more interesting option. I got my license in college and I was the only one at the test under 50, and I never really found ham radio to be very interesting.

This video series by Michael Ossmann is fantastic:

https://greatscottgadgets.com/sdr/

Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by ge96 on Friday November 03, 2023 @01:21AM (#38124849)
Idk what happened with all the FPV tech and drone pilots everywhere eg. DJI goggles. When I was doing this stuff in 2012 you were suppose to have an amateur license if your video transmitter power was over 25 mW.
Re:Email.radio – Free Email Domain for Licensed Ham Radio Op... by rmason on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:27AM (#38126330)
Regardless of where you are located in the world try and find a local ham radio club. Lots of them have classes, my local club even has a 22 and under chairman with special events for younger hams.

If not investigate your country's national organization. In America its arrl.org and in Great Britain its RSGB.org. I was in Munich this summer and the local club has been given an entire room in the science museum and they've set up an entire station there.