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Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by dtx1 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:16PM (#38117803)
There is none. Just go on 4chan and see all kinds of bad AI already in use.
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by raincole on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:39PM (#38118082)
That's terrible!

Where can I find these terrible things?

Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by itishappy on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:48PM (#38118216)
Excitement feels kinda weird here, but if that's really your thing, 4chan has all the AI generated celebrity deepfakes and child porn your heart desires.
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by mistrial9 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:57PM (#38118360)
personal vice is tragic but has limited consequences. I think the regulatory discussion is valid, irrespective of the "casino-city race to the bottom" that will occur globally.
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by pseg134 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:51PM (#38118280)
Anyone who disagrees with me is a pedophile.
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by gnarlouse on Thursday November 02, 2023 @03:26PM (#38118731)
This seems like it should be flagged
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by itishappy on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:57PM (#38118364)
They asked for the terrible stuff found on 4chan. I don't know how to interpret that more charitably. If you're expecting great art, look elsewhere.
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by artninja1988 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:29PM (#38117955)
You mean the art and voice threads? How will we survive!
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by ketzo on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:39PM (#38118087)
Deepfake porn and AI voice extortion are real harms from these technologies that are having a meaningful impact on people’s lives already.

I don’t think they’re society-ending, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t acknowledge them.

Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by swatcoder on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:58PM (#38118378)
Thorough acknowledgment means they’re now inevitable and that we’ll naturally revise how we interpret media.

We’ve done that nearly every time there’s been a shift in media, from photography to telephones to home video to digital photo and video editing, and it just sort of happens organically and automatically as people learn what they can now do and what they can now trust.

Panicked, doomed attempts to control that sort of change is just divisive and futile.

That’s not to say that there won’t be necessary laws and regulations around near-term “AI” tech, but that deep fakes are well into the irrelevant noise of what people will learn to navigate on their own.

Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by Pannoniae on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:44PM (#38118154)
"bad" AI? you mean.... not overcensored AI? the "mainstream" offerings are utterly restricted, you can't even generate porn with it. channers play an important part in driving innovation and keeping the thought police in check...
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by dtx1 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:52PM (#38118290)
Wow yall got triggered. How about simulated child porn ai, or nudify ai to make fake nudes from normal pictures. Or Ai Generated Hate Propaganda.
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by thomashop on Thursday November 02, 2023 @03:25PM (#38118716)
All of these can be done without AI.
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by llbeansandrice on Thursday November 02, 2023 @03:46PM (#38118976)
I'd presume that HN readers of all people would be able to recognize the inherent power in increasing access, reducing friction, and powerful force multipliers like AI.

Your statement reads exactly the same as "people can be killed without firearms". It's true, but firearms obviously help and cause measurable harm compared to alternatives because it makes killing (whether homicide or suicide) much easier.

Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by chasd00 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:17PM (#38119477)
aside from simulated child porn which has already been proven illegal.. i think. what exactly is the problem? If you're asking bigtech to be the morality police it's not going to work. Actually, i would love to seem them attempt this. A unified moral code for all AI globally. If they pull that off i'd ask them for a unified global religion next.
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by JW_00000 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:54PM (#38120004)
I think fake nudes could also be illegal (because you're using someone's image without their consent).
Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by MacsHeadroom on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:20PM (#38130957)
> has already been proven illegal

On the contrary. Only depictions of actual identifiable persons under the age of 18 are illegal in the U.S., according to justice.gov [0]

[0] https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual...