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Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by geraldwhen on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:27AM (#38059454)
I’ve worked with a number of 35+ year old women who think they will get married and have kids.

Yeah, right. It’s too late. None of them did, and if they did, it would be at great risk to them and child.

35 + courtship period + marriage + 9 months = no kids.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by mcpackieh on Sunday October 29, 2023 @01:54PM (#38060972)
Then a substantial portion of them become bitter and offer bad advice to younger women encouraging them follow in the same path, because misery loves company. Or because the sour grapes mentality has them conclude that they never actually wanted kids and their lonely spinster alcoholic lifestyle is actually what they wanted; they tell people they're happy and are models to be emulated. They set up a new generation for failure to validate themselves.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by underdeserver on Sunday October 29, 2023 @01:56PM (#38060992)
This is false. Many women conceive and give birth at 37, 38. In some rare cases even later. If you only want one or two kids, this is doable.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by geraldwhen on Sunday October 29, 2023 @05:28PM (#38063001)
37 is a tight window if you meet someone at 35. And it’s still risky to both mother and child:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4418963/

And “risky” here means potential of death or serious defect in child, or death for the mother. It’s irresponsible, unethical, and I don’t understand any parent that would risk the health of their child.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by sbierwagen on Sunday October 29, 2023 @05:38PM (#38063083)
Some can but most won't. https://images.theconversation.com/files/53777/original/2yc4...

>If you only want one or two kids

This is nuts. Remember, the minimum birth rate is 2.1. Every single woman you've ever met must have 2.1 children just to keep population constant. I'm sure you've met some women who wouldn't be great mothers... which just increases the burden on everyone else!

Just think about the timeline here. Start having children at 35, have your third kid at 38? By the time your youngest is 18 you'll be 56! This is supposed to be the standard life plan, the thing everybody does?

"What about immigration?"

Mexico, Brazil and India already have below-replacement fertility. Where are all these immigrants supposed to come from?

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by andelink on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:43AM (#38081390)
No one is obligated to have any children, let alone three. The population growth rate should have absolutely zero influence on your decision to reproduce.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by userinanother on Sunday October 29, 2023 @03:53PM (#38062049)
People who have failed at relationships by 35 probably also bad at them or have other negative qualities. The pool isn’t great for men or women.