Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engine everywhere

Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by endisneigh on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:40PM (#38042251)

Even if you could block sites the issue fundamentally is that you don’t know what you don’t know. Ironically YouTube is what some use since any video that features a person reviewing the product is at least guaranteed to not be from a bot.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by BiteCode_dev on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:45PM (#38042330)

AI generated content will change that.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by endisneigh on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:49PM (#38042376)

Maybe, but unlike websites it’s easy to see the “reputation” of a given YouTuber by looking at past videos and the comments at least.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by mysterydip on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:54PM (#38042426)

For now, until content farms of chatgpt-style comments and upvotes network together.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by jatins on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:39PM (#38042241)

Used the Kagi trial. Even without any custom filters it had much less SEO garbage than Google.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by jamaicahest on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:43PM (#38042298)

Or just pay the $10/month to Kagi, for search results that aren't garbage.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by SllX on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:30PM (#38042115)

Kagi lets you exclude websites entirely, so… yes with an asterisk that you have to put some legwork in to fully do so.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by pimlottc on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:39PM (#38042245)

I assume you mean excluding individual websites; though the idea of a search engine ignoring all websites is pretty amusing... (maybe you still get hits from Usenet posts?)

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by SllX on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:41PM (#38042279)

Yeah, that’s the legwork you have to do. Honestly it’s probably not much legwork but if filters like this were more prevalent in say Google for example, it would turn into a cat and mouse game very quickly between search engine users and blogspam.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by mysterydip on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:56PM (#38042454)

Yeah, I feel like the reason Kagi works is because google still delivers the majority of results to these sites. If Kagi one day becomes dominant, the filters will cease to work as you said.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by spookie on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:15PM (#38042666)

It's more... about the user having that control, not the service provider. I would wager it would still work all the same.

Perhaps, some websites would stop being so hostile if they were considered as such and blocked by a higher percentage of users :)

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by dvngnt_ on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:06PM (#38042571)

you mean you don't like Pinterest search results?

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by djbusby on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:32PM (#38042148)

Would be cool if Kagi had a way to share, or to locate others lists.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by mdavidn on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:34PM (#38042173)

They do publish global leaderboards.

https://kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboard

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by SllX on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:37PM (#38042210)

Pinterest is the real MVP for most hated and most prevalent SEO spam.

I would say 7 of the top 10 are just Pinterest, but it’s really 7 of the top 7. Yeesh.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by rchaud on Friday October 27, 2023 @04:21PM (#38043423)

Kagi needs to be able to exclude sites with Amazon affiliate links. That's the only reason people create those awful "Best X of 2023" sites.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by HideousKojima on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:29PM (#38042098)

I've seen a lot of people on here mention Kagi, a paid search engine that supposedly filters out results and makes search useful again etc. but no idea if anyone actually uses it and enjoys it or if they were just astroturfing shills.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by mdavidn on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:38PM (#38042225)

I’ve been a happy subscriber to Kagi ever since Neeva shut down. Kagi is much faster and yields better results for the kinds of queries I make. The domain filtering really makes a big difference.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by tombert on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:40PM (#38042252)

I've been using it almost exclusively since February of this year. It's pretty nice to be able to being able selectively bias searches yourself.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by dartos on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:38PM (#38042221)

I like it. It’s a little behind google sometimes like with very breaking news, but for most of my day to day it’s a massive improvement.

The also display list articles separately from other sites, which is very refreshing

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by babypuncher on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:01PM (#38042526)

> It’s a little behind google sometimes like with very breaking news

I view this as a feature, as I find my mental health improves the less I am tuned in to current events that are not explicitly relevant to my job or hobbies.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by bwb on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:37PM (#38042201)

Ive been using it for around 40 days to test. So far i like it, i do not notice much difference versus google in general. But i also got to bump quality sites in my niche up the listings (and reddit). So far i dig it

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by mog_dev on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:33PM (#38042161)

I've been a happy subscriber since the beginning. People have been talking about Kagi for a while. The devs have released a lot of figures on their blog blog.kagi.com and the feedback website is very active too. kagifeedback.org

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by rolisz on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:37PM (#38042207)

Happy paying user here. Managed to even convert some friends to it.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by kickdaddy on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:44PM (#38042322)

Huge Kagi fan. Daily driver for last six months

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by jakobson14 on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:44PM (#38042309)

Add "reddit" to your query. That's pretty much it.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by layer8 on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:53PM (#38042409)

Or “site:reddit.com” for more accuracy. You can define a search prefix or text replacement for it.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by sabellito on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:48PM (#38042362)

brave search is pretty good about removing those.

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Re:Google paid $26.3B in 2021 to be the default search engin... by marginalia_nu on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:09PM (#38042607)

There generally just isn't a lot of organic content to be found for those types of queries. Best hope is reddit or similar enthusiast watering holes, but not every product category has a strong enthusiast community.

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