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Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by oangemangut on Friday October 27, 2023 @10:38AM (#38039043)
some content creators I click on _despite_ them having to do the click-bait stupid YouTube thumbnails.

As an aside - word you may have been looking for is irrespective, or perhaps just plain old regardless. irregardless is not a word.

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by function_seven on Friday October 27, 2023 @10:59AM (#38039348)
> irregardless is not a word.

Lots of dictionaries disagree. But not me! I'll join you on this hill, regardless of what those dumb dictionaries say.

The misuse of "literally" and the common use of "irregardless" are the red pills that have turned me into a crotchety old ... prescriptivist.

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by narcraft on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:29AM (#38039799)
People say that people use literally to mean figuratively now which is literally the opposite of literally, but I've literally never seen someone use literally to mean figuratively. I have often seen it used to hyperbolize the strength of analogies or generalizations, which means they apply literally somewhat figuratively, but that doesn't mean that they literally mean for literally to mean figuratively.
Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by TeMPOraL on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:45AM (#38040046)
Literally is literally a point. Figuratively is a point only figuratively, literally it is a continuum. If you're not using literally to literally mean literally, you are literally using it to mean figuratively.
Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by marcosdumay on Friday October 27, 2023 @01:13PM (#38041145)
People are just not literally-absolutists. They believe literally exists in a continuum.

That means they disagree with you on the definition of the word, but it doesn't make it a synonym of figuratively.

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by dragonwriter on Friday October 27, 2023 @06:14PM (#38044688)
No, if you aren't using it to mean literally, you are using it figuratively, but not necessarily (or ever, IME) to mean figuratively (usually as an intensifier to a statement that is expected to be understood as figurative from context.)
Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by DrammBA on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:47AM (#38040062)
> I'm literally dead right now

Is that figurative speech?

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by falsaberN1 on Friday October 27, 2023 @12:22PM (#38040546)
Yes. Definitely.

If I say "I literally broke my arm" after I actually broke my arm, that use is completely correct. But you cannot be literally dead and still type a message, unless it's an automated message that you ordered someone/something to send AFTER you died.

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by function_seven on Friday October 27, 2023 @12:44PM (#38040786)
If I'm on my regular nightly haunting mission, and I decide to speak to the new owner of the house that I'm haunting, how do I convey to them that I am really, actually, truly dead? I could say, "I'm literally dead", but they would think I'm laughing at their joke they just made!

If the answer to this is to avoid the word "literally", and instead replace it with "really, actually, truly" (like I did above), then I might just decide to retire from haunting.

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by falsaberN1 on Friday October 27, 2023 @06:10PM (#38044653)
You obtain "literally dead" privileges if you are a ghost, too, of course.

OMG A GOAST SO SPOOKY

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by dllthomas on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:10PM (#38046735)
Of course.

Would you be less likely to interpret it as such if the speaker has omitted "literally"?

I would say that that is an example of hyperbole. "I am so figuratively dead right now it's as if I am literally dead." The meaning of literally, there, remains intact.

In the same way, when someone complains that you left them waiting for "days" we don't say "sometimes days means ten minutes" but that sometimes people exaggerate.

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by compiler-guy on Friday October 27, 2023 @12:00PM (#38040243)
Linguists call this usage, “the emphatic literally” and the best writers of the past 300 years have used it.

So if it’s good enough for Charlotte Brontë, Jane Austen, Mark Twain, Charles Dickens, William Thackeray, Vladimir Nabokov, and David Foster Wallace, then it’s good enough for me. Literally.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/the-300-year-history-of-using...

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by JohnFen on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:56PM (#38043149)
I wouldn't mind that use of the word if there were a different word available that meant "literally literally".
Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by Retric on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:34AM (#38039877)
It’s been in common use for well over 100 years before you where born.

There’s beating a dead horse, and there’s railing about the injustice of it all in the shadow of a great oak growing over the horses grave.

Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Friday October 27, 2023 @12:47PM (#38040821)
oh snap, I love that analogy.
Re:The Slow Death of Authenticity in an Attention Economy by JohnFen on Friday October 27, 2023 @12:17PM (#38040485)
> irregardless is not a word.

"Irregardless" is absolutely a word. It's not a word I personally like, but there's no denying its status.