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Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by ProjectArcturis on Friday October 27, 2023 @10:23AM (#38038831)
I understand soap molecules having polar and nonpolar ends, so that it can help nonpolar things dissolve in water. What I've never understood is, why doesn't soap clean off pine sap?
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by jyoung789 on Friday October 27, 2023 @10:35AM (#38038998)
I don’t have a real answer for you but I will say that olive oil works well for this.

I worked on a Christmas tree lot through my winters as an undergrad and olive oil always worked well. Of course then you need soap and water to remove the olive oil.

Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by brailsafe on Friday October 27, 2023 @10:36AM (#38039021)
Coffee grounds or that mechanic paste might do pretty well also
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Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by brailsafe on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:46PM (#38046297)
Haven't heard of walnut grounds, and yes fast orange is meh. Thanks for the suggestion.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by sand500 on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:08AM (#38039474)
This is great for when the contaminant is oil soluble but not water soluble.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by e12e on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:29AM (#38039793)
Guessing inside (white side) of orange peel will work too (the oils are used to make various cleaning products).
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by ska on Friday October 27, 2023 @12:52PM (#38040881)
IIRC This is why "goo gone" product is really good with many adhesives.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by burnte on Friday October 27, 2023 @01:09PM (#38041093)
That's my favorite adhesive remover. And it cleans up well afterwards with Dawn soap and water.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by TeMPOraL on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:55PM (#38042444)
Does it have a generic name for non-American audience?
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by ska on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:35PM (#38042903)
I don't know if it does. It's the original from here: https://googone.com/original

I imagine there are variations in other places, I think it's mostly concentated citrus oils from oranges.

Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by soperj on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:42AM (#38040006)
Coconut Oil works as well.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by senderista on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:29PM (#38042812)
Also works for jackfruit residue.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by phito on Friday October 27, 2023 @10:30AM (#38038931)
I would guess that since pine sap (and any other adhesive) sticks, it does not allow for soap molecules to surround it.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by mvcalder on Friday October 27, 2023 @10:50AM (#38039222)
If you, like me, often find yourself covered in pine sap. The product: Shout, for removing laundry stains will make quick work of removing sap from skin. Maybe the answer to your chemistry question is in there.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by kube-system on Friday October 27, 2023 @02:09PM (#38041897)
I looked up some SDS sheets, and it looks like there are multiple formulations with completely different ingredients.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by phantom784 on Friday October 27, 2023 @10:50AM (#38039239)
Isopropyl alcohol works well for cleaning pine sap.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by boppo1 on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:14AM (#38039573)
Something to do with the difference between solvents & surfactants I imagine.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by Isthatablackgsd on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:28AM (#38039772)
Pine sap are not water soluble, even with soap. Pine sap is resin based, resins need a different solvent that can dissolve it such as alcohol or mineral spirits. It the same for wax (THC/CBD) resins, they need alcohol to clean it off.

It the same for blood stains on clothing. They are not generally water soluble, you could get them out if you put it under cold water if the stain is still fresh. Hydrogen Peroxide can dissolve blood stains (fresh or old) since it can be used as a solvent.

Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by NoImmatureAdHom on Friday October 27, 2023 @12:06PM (#38040330)
I'm pretty sure with H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) it's actually destroying the chromophores in blood (among other things), not dissolving stuff.

Put differently, it breaks up the stain molecules into smaller molecules and causes other reactions that change them, it doesn't just dissolve them. You can dissolve resinous stuff with various solvents, you're right about that. Stays mostly the same, just goes into solution.

Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by mccrory on Friday October 27, 2023 @01:57PM (#38041722)
If you use Hydrogen Peroxide, it will often also take some pigment with it from the clothing if that’s what your are getting the blood out from. So be careful not to inadvertently bleach something.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by NegativeLatency on Friday October 27, 2023 @11:43AM (#38040018)
It does just not very well. Maybe the pine sap is more interested in being stuck to pine sap than soap?

There are things that are much better at cleaning non polar molecules off of surfaces, alcohols, gasoline, lye, brake cleaner etc, but they’re not great at cleaning your hands because they strip the lipids that make up your skin off.

Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by nyanpasu64 on Friday October 27, 2023 @12:48PM (#38040831)
Ironically I've found that lotion is better at cleaning resins/flux off my hands than soap alone.
Re:How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing by atombender on Friday October 27, 2023 @01:46PM (#38041575)
Maybe for the same reason that you can remove greasy hair pomade (or other hard-to-wash-out hair products) from your hair by first applying a conditioner, then washing with shampoo. Supposedly the fats/oils in the conditioner bind to the grease and lets the soap get both.