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Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by Kirby64 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:20PM (#38015358)
Doesn't Chevy already have an 'affordable' sub-$30k EV? It's called the Chevy Bolt: https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-ev
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by denimnerd42 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:48PM (#38015773)
that's what I bought, but it's canceled because it doesn't use their current battery technology called "Ultium." Unfortunately they went all in on big expensive EVs with their first Ultium vehicles so I don't think they will sell that well as hybrid or gas would be my choice for those larger cars.
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by Kirby64 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:53PM (#38015842)
They already changed course on this, and have stated they will reintroduce the Bolt and it will actually use the Ultium platform:

https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.detai...

Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by denimnerd42 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:59PM (#38015948)
yeah but it's not even close to available yet. they've got 6 or 7 cars ahead of it to produce. the equinox, blazer, silverado, a cadillac, the acura/honda, others?

I'm guessing the Honda was supposed to be based on the equinox and as the Honda that is coming was based on the blazer. the promised 30k equinox will probably never show (at that price) so Honda said lets cancel it.

Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by tibbydudeza on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:59PM (#38015952)
Hope they call it Zolt - they killed the Bolt brand forever.
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by Podgajski on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:28PM (#38016386)
Jolt?
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by hightrix on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:34PM (#38016477)
The Bolt falls victim to the same problem as many other cheap EVs, it is ugly as sin. I don't understand why manufacturers won't make EVs that look like normal cars. Yes, some exist, but this ugly beast style seems much more common.
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by bsjaux628 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @03:51PM (#38017403)
It looks like a normal car in any part of the world that is not the US. The focus for big, gas gusller cars is a very American thing thanks to the cheap gas
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by garciasn on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @03:58PM (#38017489)
Ok, what about the Merceds EQE/Ss? They're $74K+ Honda Civics. Why not put them in the standard E/S class bodies? Why do they have to look like a piece of shit car even though they come from what, in America, is a luxury auto?
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by brianwawok on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @04:16PM (#38017757)
What is the drag coef between the two? A lot of cars that we think look nice burn a lot of extra gas because of their shape.
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by guax on Thursday October 26, 2023 @02:56AM (#38022552)
Are the interiors of the EQS the same of a Honda civic? Where do you get this gourmet civics from?
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by hightrix on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:52PM (#38018868)
I'm not referring to the need for large SUVs or Trucks, or other large gas gusllers. We need normal looking sedans, sports cars, and other cars that don't look like these cheap EV compact hatchbacks.
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by oblio on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @06:31PM (#38019192)
That's your personal preference and the Bolt looks like a normal car. The BMW i3 or the Cybertruck are outliers.
Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by Sohcahtoa82 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @04:53PM (#38018237)
You think the Bolt is ugly? Looks like any other compact hatchback to me.

Other than the lack of a grill up front, I don't think it looks different from any other car on the road.

Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by hightrix on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:50PM (#38018852)
Yes. I do not like compact hatchbacks and would never drive one by choice. I'm not alone in this opinion.

Additionally, I don't mean we need EV monstrous SUVs, but just give me a normal looking sedan.

Re:GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30k... by Sohcahtoa82 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @08:19PM (#38020074)
That's fair...but in your original comment, you singled out the Bolt, which implied that you didn't have a problem with compact hatchbacks in general, just the Bolt specifically.

Everything in your original comment implies that you hate the Bolt because you think it doesn't look like a normal car, when the reality is that it DOES look like a normal car, you just hate compact hatchbacks.