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Re:Slack is retiring its status account on X by herbst on Friday October 20, 2023 @03:51AM (#37953405)
A private company having apparently access to all my messages (it's not true, there is encryption) is still somewhat better than meta AND the whole US government having access to my data
Re:Slack is retiring its status account on X by HenryBemis on Friday October 20, 2023 @04:07AM (#37953483)
> it's not true, there is encryption

Who has the keys? What exactly is encrypted? 1-2-1 chats? Group chats? Attachments? Are metadata handed over? Dear Autumn12 don't just read the marketing material.

In a real example: Apple's Cloud has a copy of most users' data as (by f...g default) when you activate an iphone it enables them all. I remember the case with that terrorist (was it the Boston Marathon guy?) that Apple wouldn't hack the device but they handed everything they had on their cloud to FBI.

Re:Slack is retiring its status account on X by herbst on Friday October 20, 2023 @04:22AM (#37953568)
Op claimed it's not encrypted. Which again is simply wrong. Other than that you'll find details about their p2p encryption here https://core.telegram.org/api/end-to-end if you want.

I don't know what you want to say with your example, but there are dozens of examples where telegram did not give out data even thought they likely should have. It's definitely a more private choice to apple or meta

Re:Slack is retiring its status account on X by jacooper on Sunday October 22, 2023 @05:03AM (#37973908)
I meant not encrypted as in not E2EE, which is true. Telegram does so many stuff to avoid saying they have the keys.
Re:Slack is retiring its status account on X by lxgr on Friday October 20, 2023 @11:41AM (#37957679)
> it's not true, there is encryption

Yes, but not by default, and it’s weird/custom and not properly peer-reviewed.

> somewhat better than meta AND the whole US government having access to my data

How do you know that that is the case for WhatsApp?