Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by nikkwong on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @07:20PM
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Red meat is not necessarily high in omega 6, and on the contrary grass fed meat can be high in omega 3. Also the debate is still out on whether or not omega 6 is inflammatory or not, and even omega 6 rich nuts are probably health promoting in typical quantities. From my understanding gluten is probably fine for those that don’t have a sensitivity. I think you should caveat your claims about diet since we don’t totally know to an absolute manner yet.
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by datameta on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @08:32PM
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Fair enough, I'll rephrase it this way: most large mammal meat causes inflammation for me and my partner, whereas chicken, turkey, fish, rabbit, etc are all fine (and I should say I used to basically eat meat with carbs). As far as omega fatty acids are concerned, I believe one shouldn't let their omega-6 and omega-9 levels be much higher than omega-3. Gluten is associated with all sorts of issues that I think we will be learning more about in the next few years. There are plenty of alternatives so that one is easy for me. I can still make pasta (chickpea, lentil, brown rice), and use tortillas (almond, chickpea, cassava).
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by scubadude on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @08:52PM
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How can you possibly measure inflammation much less attribute it to a single variable?
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by notamy on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @10:53PM
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> How can you possibly measure inflammation
There’s a number of inflammation markers in the blood that can be measured directly via lab test (cRP, ESR, blood cell counts, ...).
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by datameta on Thursday October 19, 2023 @02:39PM
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Exactly this, I get regular blood work. On top of that, I can feel the inflammation. It is pressure, or warmth. It's a very obvious bodily reaction.
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by blueorange8 on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @09:14PM
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My understanding is that you need a balance between omega 6 and omega 3 and omega 6 is not necessarily bad if its the right ratio between 6 and 3
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by lapetitejort on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @07:09PM
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I'm a fermentation freak so I have to highlight how uncooked fermented foods like sauerkraut and the aforementioned kefir play into anti-inflammation [0].
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by imp0cat on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:11AM
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What about Ayran (that salty turkish thing)?
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by AceyMan on Thursday October 19, 2023 @02:27AM
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What about pickles? Do pickles fit into the nutrition profile we're looking at (Please, think of the pickles.)
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by imp0cat on Thursday October 19, 2023 @03:03AM
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Good news, pickles are fermented, so they are good for your gut!
Ayran, on the other hand, contains a lot of salt which probably isn't the best.
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by quickthrower2 on Thursday October 19, 2023 @06:40AM
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kimchi too?
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by boringds on Thursday October 19, 2023 @08:10AM
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yes. I had to heal my gut and kimchi and sauerkraut plus the occasional Kefir are great. I also take from time to time zinc L-carnosine and L-glutamine, great for the gut as well.
It's also a good idea to get tested for H Pilory.
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by dghughes on Thursday October 19, 2023 @08:20AM
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Sour red cherries are pretty good anti-inflamatory.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/food-health-you-asked/it-t...
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by tapanjk on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @11:40PM
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Among inflammatory substances, alcohol is the elephant in the room. Cutting out alcohol is the lowest hanging fruit in this garden. Unfortunately, people convince themselves that it is perfectly healthy when consumed in small quantities every day. Anybody who monitors their health/fitness parameters with a smart watch will notice how damaging alcohol is.
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by datameta on Thursday October 19, 2023 @02:40PM
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Yes, 100%. At some point I started to feel negative bodily reaction from a single beer quit. I also quit smoking for the same reason.
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by ffgjgf1 on Thursday October 19, 2023 @06:56AM
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Most of this is conjecture though and should taken with a huge grain of salt (if we’re focusing on Alzheimers specifically)
Re:Scientists discover links between Alzheimer's disease and...
by datameta on Thursday October 19, 2023 @02:49PM
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If we're focusing on effects of diet on immune systems, especially those not functioning nominally, it is quite readily available information now. Was not so half a decade ago. The immune system is affected strongly by gut microbiota health, therefore it is a solid base to assume the same applies dietary considerations apply for Alzheimer's.
I'm going to plug a health model rapidly gaining mainstream acceptance by healthcare providers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biopsychosocial_model?wprov=sf... It posits that all factors of life are important for overall good health. The TL;DR is that one needs to consider diet, exercise, socialization, hobbies, etc in addition to whatever medication regimen is helping.
As for avoiding: red meat (high in omega-6), gluten (chickpea, rice, lentil pasta instead of wheat), cooking with hydrogenated oils, preservatives, processed food, refined sugar
The lists could be much longer. Look up anti-inflammatory diet aka mediterranean diet. What I will say is adhering to this diet has done as much for my inflammatory condition as all the medication. With some foods I feel their effect right away (pork, too much sugar), with some it sneaks up as I let it slip for a few days. So I stand by it.