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Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by wayfinder on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @12:13AM (#37924781)
Ah yes, instead of going to google.com or 192.168.1.1 or adding a printer connected to my Wi-Fi, let me open my big yellow pages of globally unique MAC addresses…
Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by allanrbo on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @12:22AM (#37924813)
I think op was just saying as a bus on a local network for some very specialized application.
Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by wayfinder on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @01:29AM (#37925123)
But you can do that already. DNS, ARP, TCP/UDP, and IP are all completely optional.

Just write a program to send and receive Ethernet frames. I believe it doesn’t have to contain IP.

Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by camtarn on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @04:10AM (#37926061)
Indeed - see industrial protocols such as EtherCAT or Powerlink, which use Ethernet frames with their own non-IP protocol on top.
Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by namtab00 on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @07:38PM (#37936273)
aren't also ATMs using a protocol of the same "species"?
Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @01:38AM (#37925179)
> let me open my big yellow pages of globally unique MAC addresses

Yeah, well, you've basically described IPv6.

Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by bauruine on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @01:46AM (#37925219)
rfc4941 is from 2011 if you use an OS that isn't using it you have bigger problems.
Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by sa46 on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @02:27AM (#37925419)
How do networks manage the larger number of IPv6 addresses?

My cursory digging indicates that the secret sauce is to grant large IPv6 prefixes and delegate routing to the prefix. An informative-looking Reddit comment says there are 100k IPv6 prefixes (as of Oct. 2020), and each active route takes 1 KiB. [1]

So, IPv6 differs significantly from MAC addresses because you only need to track prefixes.

[1]: https://old.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/j9twgq/how_much...

Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by windexh8er on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @07:48AM (#37927340)
Prefixes are routed. ARP, in IPv6, is replaced by a function of Neighbor Discovery Protocol (NDP) called Neighbor Advertisment (NA) and Neighbor Solicitation (NS) where L2 MAC is sent in it's messaging. The NS messaging leverages multicast to communicate with the broader set of hosts for discovery. Basically it sends a message to the multicast address containing the IPv6 address such that it can discover it's MAC. So the flooding/broadcasting for MAC of v4 is replaced by a much more efficient L3 to L2 lookup in v6.
Re:Google opens Falcon, a reliable low-latency hardware tran... by gosub100 on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @06:37AM (#37926910)
I think you mean white pages.