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Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by tpmx on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @04:09PM (#37920840)
The US justice system seems very odd to this European. Then I realize that if the EU project ever were to reach its presumed goals (by some), we'd probably end up with something pretty similar in terms of "oddness complexity".
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by cryptonector on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @04:28PM (#37921102)
I'd say you're already there.
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by tpmx on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:00PM (#37921494)
In terms of law enforcement: I disagree. It's like 97% national still.

In terms of civil disputes between citizens from different member countries - well, we don't have any phone/internet/post police.

Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by cryptonector on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:53PM (#37922125)
But you have the European arrest warrant now, right? So it may all be national, but also kinda international.
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by marcus0x62 on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:04PM (#37921543)
Oh, it is absolutely wild, which I don't think is a very good characteristic for a legal system, especially one where the rule is that 'ignorance of the law is not a defense'.
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by ben_w on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:31PM (#37921884)
I think we need a new take on that phrase, something like "ignorance of the law must not be a reasonable defence" — when the law is too complex for most people to understand, it is vulnerable to capricious enforcement, malicious compliance, and unwitting everyday violations being held against the politically undesirable.

Not only do I have absolutely no idea how to get from here to there, I also assume the degree of simplification I desire — to the point that normal people know what's going on most of the time — is the legal equivalent of saying "Twitter doesn't need 6000 employees because Mark Zuckerberg wrote Facebook by himself in college" in a software engineering context, and wrong for much the same reasons.

Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by marcus0x62 on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @06:24PM (#37922415)
I think we could start by requiring mens rea for any felony offense.
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by TacticalCoder on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @08:00PM (#37923197)
One of my favorite saying is this: "The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state" (thousands years old saying and nothing has changed).

And, oh boy, do we have many laws.

It is by design, to oppress the people.

Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by vasco on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @02:39AM (#37925471)
At work do you also say the legacy projects that are a pain to work with are by design, to oppress the programmers?
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by BeFlatXIII on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @11:03AM (#37929714)
You don't even need to consider ALL laws. Just look at the tax code in isolation for good examples.
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by jonathankoren on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:41PM (#37921990)
I often think it’s because Europe doesn’t typically have federalism.
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by williamcotton on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @06:52PM (#37922634)
I’m sure to anyone in the UK these ancient oddities seem pretty familiar.
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by chinchilla2020 on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @07:27PM (#37922916)
It is directly based on the UK's legal system. I am sure the same oddities are present there as well. Probably moreso since they are an old country.
Re:Tech CEO Sentenced to 5 Years in IP Address Scheme by thayne on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:58PM (#37924714)
> The US justice system seems very odd to this European.

I very much agree. And I live in the US.