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Re:Is it going to rain? by there on Thursday November 27, 2008 @08:49PM (#379043)
hey, that's my site. it's been up for a while but it got posted to stumbleupon the other day and has been seeing a ton of traffic. glad it's of use to anyone other than myself.

i made it one day after being annoyed with all the junk on weather.com. i just wanted a simple answer whether it was going to rain so i knew which car i could drive that day.

Re:Is it going to rain? by robg on Friday November 28, 2008 @04:39PM (#379564)
I really dig the simplicity - in the app and in use. We have a dynamic IP that's not even remotely tied to our location (Hughes Net Satellite) and so it seems to get reset every time we get a new IP. Any way to implement some cookie to save the zip code?
Re:Is it going to rain? by blasdel on Friday November 28, 2008 @12:41PM (#379422)
The 'helvetica' included with nearly all X servers is a terrible bitmap that maxes out at 16pt. Some windows installations also have a similar crapfest.

I recommend using font-family:"helvetica neue", arial, sans-serif;

Re:Is it going to rain? by mannylee1 on Saturday November 29, 2008 @03:14PM (#380323)
This would make a perfect Iphone app. If you aren't going to make it, would you mind if I did?
Re:Is it going to rain? by there on Saturday November 29, 2008 @08:37PM (#380531)
i'm not sure how it would really be an app; the page renders fine on mobile safari so couldn't you just add the bookmark to the home screen? i could probably add a apple-touch-icon.png file so it has an icon instead of a crop of the webpage.
Re:Is it going to rain? by jmtame on Saturday November 29, 2008 @12:27AM (#379895)
you should also have a "what should i wear today" with either a long/short shirt, jeans/shorts, and yes coat/no coat. less work i need to do :p
Re:Is it going to rain? by gaius on Saturday November 29, 2008 @10:39AM (#380160)
www.weatherpixie.com
Re:Is it going to rain? by bemmu on Thursday November 27, 2008 @10:02PM (#379073)
Where do you get the data?
Re:Is it going to rain? by there on Thursday November 27, 2008 @10:06PM (#379075)
maxmind for the ip geolocation, google for the weather
Re:Is it going to rain? by jyothi on Thursday November 27, 2008 @11:25PM (#379098)
simple and neat. Great app.

- The weather details could be a slightly more bold.

- It is not intuitive to press enter when i click to change the location though.

- Does a google gadget exist for this so that i can put this on my iGoogle page?

Re:Is it going to rain? by joshsharp on Thursday November 27, 2008 @07:28PM (#379002)
It picked my location perfectly, but then gave me a temperature in Fahrenheit. All you need now is to match locations to measurement standards (ie. US, UK and that one other country imperial, all others metric).
Re:Is it going to rain? by holygoat on Thursday November 27, 2008 @08:18PM (#379027)
Just goes to show that it's not easy to match location to measurement standard: you would be wrong if you picked Imperial measurements for the UK, unless the person viewing the page is of a certain mindset and born before about 1975.

I was raised in the UK, and used celsius. Now I live in the US and have learned to use Fahrenheit.

On a related note, I was very annoyed that Yahoo Weather will allow you to either choose centigrade and kilometers per hour, or Fahrenheit and MPH, but not to mix and match. Insane.

Re:Is it going to rain? by axod on Friday November 28, 2008 @02:57AM (#379183)
IMHO The UK is slightly more complex than that. When it's hot, we use Fahrenheit - "It's almost 100℉ out there!. When it's cold we use Celsius - "Brrr! -7℃"

Probably best to show both.

Re:Is it going to rain? by swombat on Friday November 28, 2008 @06:13AM (#379240)
More importantly, the UK is far simpler than all the others.

The answer to "is it going to rain?" here is always "Who knows? Probably... can't really say. It looks sunny outside, but it was raining this morning so it might rain again later today."

Re:Is it going to rain? by DougBTX on Friday November 28, 2008 @04:55AM (#379224)
Living in the UK, can't say I've ever seen that. Celsius all the way!
Re:Is it going to rain? by pwoods on Friday November 28, 2008 @10:07AM (#379337)
How fast is your temperature in the UK?
Re:Is it going to rain? by there on Friday November 28, 2008 @12:09PM (#379394)
i changed it to default (on your first visit, before you have a cookie) to celsius for anything outside of the us. when you click on the answer you can toggle between celsius and fahrenheit and override whatever it picked.
Re:Is it going to rain? by Jem on Saturday November 29, 2008 @08:20AM (#380097)
Ah, that makes it perfect.

You've earned a little spot on my bookmarks toolbar.

Re:Is it going to rain? by vizard on Friday November 28, 2008 @08:56PM (#379774)
thanks .. much appreciated.
Re:Is it going to rain? by FiReaNG3L on Thursday November 27, 2008 @07:52PM (#379014)
That, and I think its going to snow here, not rain :P
Re:Is it going to rain? by there on Thursday November 27, 2008 @08:52PM (#379046)
goingtoprecipitate.com seemed like too long a name :)
Re:Is it going to rain? by jodrellblank on Thursday November 27, 2008 @09:20PM (#379059)
predicipate.com

With unicode domain names, you could have preticipation?.com, although it may look a mess in non-Firefox browsers.

Re:Is it going to rain? by axod on Friday November 28, 2008 @02:58AM (#379184)
☂?.com
Re:Is it going to rain? by eyudkowsky on Friday November 28, 2008 @03:20AM (#379197)
Oh, that was subtle.
Re:Is it going to rain? by bluishgreen on Thursday November 27, 2008 @07:56PM (#379018)
I grew up in a metric place, in bay area now - But I can never get an instinctive feel for temperature unless its told to me in metric.
Re:Is it going to rain? by Oompa on Thursday November 27, 2008 @07:42PM (#379011)
Would be nice to switch between C and F. I'm in Atlanta, but I prefer to see temperature as degrees Celsius.
Re:Is it going to rain? by pwoods on Friday November 28, 2008 @10:09AM (#379339)
It's always nice to meet progressive Oompa Loompas
Re:Is it going to rain? by laut on Saturday November 29, 2008 @12:47AM (#379904)
Or even more simple. US (you could add Belize): fahrenheit. Every other country: celsius.

AFAIK the UK uses celsius mostly.

Re:Is it going to rain? by tallanvor on Friday November 28, 2008 @10:17AM (#379343)
But some of us want to see the temperature in Fahrenheit no matter where we are, such as expats or travelers.
Re:Is it going to rain? by a-priori on Thursday November 27, 2008 @07:40PM (#379009)
Undocumented features from the HTML source:

  try /XXXXX for a specific zip code
  or /tomorrow for tomorrow's forecast
Re:Is it going to rain? by daveambrose on Thursday November 27, 2008 @08:17PM (#379026)
Interesting. Nice find.
Re:Is it going to rain? by kalvin on Friday November 28, 2008 @04:09AM (#379211)
Question: I've always wanted to see today's temperature in terms of yesterday's, so like, "it's going to be 5 degrees warmer." Anyone know if this service is already offered somewhere?
Re:Is it going to rain? by TobiasCassell on Thursday November 27, 2008 @08:25PM (#379031)
Looks gorgeous. Has anyone built a startup addressing how hard it is to properly search if an idea already exists?

http://umbrellatoday.com/

Re:Is it going to rain? by andyking on Thursday November 27, 2008 @09:02PM (#379051)
But that site has the "enter your zip code" wall, a wholly unfriendly stumbling block for a non-US user to be faced with on any site. (You'd be surprised how many people, erm, "live" in 90210 on signup forms!) goingtorain.com somehow detected my precise town and told me straight.
Re:Is it going to rain? by whatusername on Thursday November 27, 2008 @09:39PM (#379067)
I live in 90210 in most forms on the net.

(Okay - and my name is often George Bush or Bill Clinton)

Re:Is it going to rain? by DEinspanjer on Thursday November 27, 2008 @10:01PM (#379072)
Bah! Silly BevHills holds nothing on Schenectady, NY. http://benfry.com/zipdecode/
Re:Is it going to rain? by edb on Friday November 28, 2008 @06:34AM (#379246)
I hear ya. My name is Bill Gates and I sign up to an unheard of amount of services from my apt in the 90210 area. Thank god for the great spam filter I have on my personal email: [email protected], I get alot of spam there for some reason
Re:Is it going to rain? by ahpeeyem on Friday November 28, 2008 @09:24AM (#379303)
yeah goingtorain.com wins. It has location detection and you can use it outside the USA, which is handy for me since I've only spent 0.04% of my life there.

I am a lover of putting 90210 as my zip code though, I did it by reflex to try out umbrellatoday.com haha

Re:Is it going to rain? by Thr4wn on Friday November 28, 2008 @12:17AM (#379112)
I agree that there's a logrithmic scale between usage-required and annoyance perceived. ie, that one click is a huge difference compared to literally doing nothing (but hitting a bookmark, or maybe it's your home page).

However, umbrellatoday has txting ability; which is not on goingtorain.com.

Re:Is it going to rain? by psyklic on Friday November 28, 2008 @10:59PM (#379849)
I love the simplicity of goingtorain. But, umbrellatoday wins out for me because it rarely rains here in LA. It isn't worth me checking each day, so umbrellatoday's text message options seems great -- now let's see if it works.
Re:Is it going to rain? by ryanspahn on Saturday November 29, 2008 @08:39AM (#380107)
Nice job! I saw a similar service called umbrellatoday too.

A month or so ago we ( http://sleep.fm ) launched wake up to ur weather report. We speak the weather to you upon zip code entry/alarm time passing.

Thought I'd share via the relevancy of this post. Congrats on your launch!

Re:Is it going to rain? by kylec on Thursday November 27, 2008 @07:13PM (#378992)
I like how simple it is, but it definitely needs an RSS feed. Seeing as they're using some sort of IP geolocation, it would be cool if the forecast 'followed' me in the feed when I switched locations.
Re:Is it going to rain? by wonka on Thursday November 27, 2008 @08:25PM (#379030)
That would be pretty pointless considering RSS feeds are cached.
Re:Is it going to rain? by ahpeeyem on Friday November 28, 2008 @09:36AM (#379311)
I think "pointless" is going a bit overboard, it's up to the client to decide how long to cache a feed, and the cache policy for the feed should use normal HTTP conventions - the Last-modified, If-modified-since and Expires headers.

If the feed expired in 60 minutes that would be enough to update for changing locations.

Re:Is it going to rain? by arohner on Saturday November 29, 2008 @12:30PM (#380222)
I bet it breaks on google reader, and similar browser-based feeds.
Re:Is it going to rain? by kleneway on Saturday November 29, 2008 @02:03PM (#380282)
I love this site. Last year I posted an idea on my blog that was a collection of extremely simple sites where you get instant answers to questions like this. Is it raining, did the Cubs win today, is the stock market up or down, etc... Cool to see this one in action.

http://astartupaday.wordpress.com/2007/04/20/startup-32-is-i...

Re:Is it going to rain? by whatusername on Thursday November 27, 2008 @09:42PM (#379068)
Matched my location to a suburb. Failed to have data for that suburb though - only for the capital city. (and only for today - /tomorrow doesnt work)

Also - saying that it will "maybe" rain in Melbourne is a bit of a cop-out - considering we are famous for having 4 seasons in a day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Seasons_in_One_Day)

Re:Is it going to rain? by hopeless on Friday November 28, 2008 @05:14AM (#379231)
I only wish http://www.doineedajacket.com/ would look as clean and lose the clutter (ads, discussions, blah, blah, blah). However, I still prefer it because it gives a reason for needing a jacket (it's chilly, rain etc) and works across the world.
Re:Is it going to rain? by jrnkntl on Friday November 28, 2008 @07:16AM (#379257)
In the Netherlands we've got http://www.buienradar.nl, pretty cluttered with ads but it's more accurate than a 'maybe' :) You can see when rain clouds are approaching your area; almost 'real time' ;)
Re:Is it going to rain? by ahpeeyem on Friday November 28, 2008 @09:39AM (#379314)
Yeah Australia's Bureau of Meteorology has radar images online as well: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.shtml

Shows actual rainfall though, not clouds, so it can be grey and dark outside but look clear on the radar.

Re:Is it going to rain? by kilps on Saturday November 29, 2008 @09:13AM (#380113)
Nicely done - except it says it won't rain, so I looked outside - no wait it is raining. From other comments looks like Google's fault though - but still: putting that my emphasis on one aspect of the forecast and then getting it wrong ...
Re:Is it going to rain? by jakewolf on Friday November 28, 2008 @11:05AM (#379363)
Check out http://www.weather.gov/xml/ for another source of weather data.
Re:Is it going to rain? by parenthesis on Thursday November 27, 2008 @08:44PM (#379039)
How does it know where you are?
Re:Is it going to rain? by newt0311 on Thursday November 27, 2008 @09:13PM (#379057)
geolocation. Info. on wikipedia.

In summary: A reverse-DNS search through the DNS system combined with more information from geolocation DBs can usually pinpoint location to within a few miles unless the user goes to some lengths to hide it (ie. use VPNs, tor, ip spoofing, etc...). Several free databases available if you want to do this yourself.

Re:Is it going to rain? by Andys on Thursday November 27, 2008 @10:16PM (#379080)
It isn't that accurate outside of the USA.
Re:Is it going to rain? by pierrefar on Friday November 28, 2008 @03:48AM (#379205)
Actually, unless you're on AOL or a handful of other IPs, you can geolocate too >99% accuracy to a country level for free. See this: http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolitecity .

The city accuracy outside the US is not great.

Re:Is it going to rain? by andyking on Friday November 28, 2008 @09:18AM (#379302)
It's fine for me to the precise town, but I'm on a static IP and someone's probably put it into one of the databases in the past.

At work, opening Google Maps zooms you straight to the exact work address. Now that's spooky.

Re:Is it going to rain? by asmosoinio on Saturday November 29, 2008 @03:13AM (#379990)
I'll join the crowd. Worked for me: Manila, Philippines. No data available about the weather though: "i'm not sure what the weather is like in Makati,PH"
Re:Is it going to rain? by paraschopra on Friday November 28, 2008 @12:57AM (#379139)
Worked for me too! Gurgaon, India
Re:Is it going to rain? by BvS on Friday November 28, 2008 @09:10AM (#379298)
Worked for me. Berlin - Germany
Re:Is it going to rain? by rtra on Friday November 28, 2008 @06:36AM (#379249)
Works for me. Lisbon, Portugal.
Re:Is it going to rain? by paulgb on Thursday November 27, 2008 @11:22PM (#379096)
Worked for me (Waterloo, ON)
Re:Is it going to rain? by terpua on Friday November 28, 2008 @12:50AM (#379135)
An automatic email if it is going to rain would be handy.
Re:Is it going to rain? by trickjarrett on Friday November 28, 2008 @08:09AM (#379271)
Umbrellatoday.com sends you an sms at 7am if it's going to rain on that day.
Re:Is it going to rain? by simianstyle on Thursday November 27, 2008 @09:11PM (#379056)
lol @ div#prophylactic
Re:Is it going to rain? by lst on Saturday November 29, 2008 @12:05PM (#380200)
Nice and fine, but here in Europe, in times of satellites, you might sit in another country as your ISP, so the actual location might differ quite a bit.
Re:Is it going to rain? by weegee on Thursday November 27, 2008 @10:49PM (#379089)
maybe
Re:Is it going to rain? by crabapple on Thursday November 27, 2008 @08:46PM (#379041)
matching ips to locales is not new.
Re:Is it going to rain? by trickjarrett on Friday November 28, 2008 @08:11AM (#379275)
No indeed it isn't, nor is pointless commenting on news stories. This post was of another minimalist .com that serves a single purpose without the extra noise or cruft other sites that provide that information carry.
Re:Is it going to rain? by ashu on Thursday November 27, 2008 @10:09PM (#379076)
how insightful, sir! this forum is indebted.