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Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by WCSTombs on Thursday October 12, 2023 @12:41PM (#37859577)
I've been using a flip phone for many years. I don't have a smart phone.

One of the challenges is traveling and transportation, and the solution is mostly just planning ahead.

- If driving to an unfamiliar place, study the map beforehand and print (or write) directions and tape it to the dashboard. For any parts of the route that seem tricky, look at Google Maps' street-level images to prepare for reality. (After 1-2 trips, though, I can usually get there and back unaided.)

- If taking public transit, note down basic timing info and stop IDs. The 5-1-1 phone number is often really helpful has well.

- If traveling internationally, just plan ahead carefully. The specifics here will vary wildly by destination, but for example I went to Germany earlier this year with prepurchased train tickets and was able to get where I needed to go.

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by ugjka on Thursday October 12, 2023 @12:08PM (#37859146)
Have they invented e-sim dumbphones? Would be nice to just have something to add to my main account and just use that when out and about doing something stupid that might involve drowning my main phone or cracking the screen
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by eimrine on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:10PM (#37860739)
Why do you need e-sim dumbphone, is it because your main phone has e-sim? I have several killed/drowned dumbphones and I find a regular sim-card pretty unbreakable piece of technology.

If they will invent it, it will be nothing like 3310, the dumbphones made in 2020+ are very brittle and they do not have much spare displays on the market as Nokia devices have.

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by ugjka on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:34PM (#37861093)
I can buy burner esims online, no need of shipping
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by KomoD on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:03PM (#37861559)
Where?
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by ugjka on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:09PM (#37861654)
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by KomoD on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:27PM (#37861906)
Thanks
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by eimrine on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:08PM (#37861648)
To buy a sim online is not cool. To buy it with cash and no questions asked is.
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by ugjka on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:13PM (#37861719)
Can do that here too if i wanted, but I'm not attempting to make bomb threats to institutions
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by eimrine on Friday October 13, 2023 @05:26AM (#37868582)
Can you pay for your esim with cash? Countering terrorism is a poor excuse for buying things not available for cash. And I hesitate about compability the idea of dumb phone which not lures you to use Internet services with idea of esim which basically is a some account in a social network.
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by rtcoms on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:24PM (#37860945)
There are smartwatches with esim though
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by eimrine on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:07PM (#37860708)
I stopped using any smartphones since Android 2.3 because they started to be annoying. I carry a laptop everywhere when I might want to chill, and I have a semi-stupid phone for listening youtube or podcasts everywhere anytime except when I am working. Also I do not find telegram a desired software on my hardware.
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by runjake on Thursday October 12, 2023 @05:42PM (#37863533)
No, because I value the superior functionality and security of a smartphone.
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by karmakaze on Thursday October 12, 2023 @06:47PM (#37864136)
The main motivation seems to be elimination of social/media consumption. I typically only use the smartness for maps, Uber, HN, and the occasional puzzle game or youtube video when I'm killing time waiting. I was completely fine if I forgot my phone at home all day, back when I used to commute to the office. People who know me, know that I'm not 'always on' so it isn't a problem.

Another good reason could be for utmost privacy. Not perfect but I keep location services disabled except when I need to use it, then turn it off right after. I started doing that for battery life so I can go days without charging and it just became a normal habit.

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by egberts1 on Thursday October 12, 2023 @07:09PM (#37864359)
Yes.

Gentoo on Pinephone Pro with T-Mobile.

I absolutely love the hardware privacy switches for the cameras, the microphone, WiFi & BT, headphone jack (enabling UART) and the LTE modem (including GPS) under the back cover.

Just absolutely love it.

Not for the faint of heart but anyone who can build Linux from Scratch can do this.

https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by n2dasun on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:50PM (#37865996)
I do so every couple of years. I would love to now, but my kids have smartphones, so I feel the need to be able to relate.

The one I had most recently was the Sonim XP5, which fit all my requirements (bluetooth connection for music and hands-free, mp3 player, no apps) despite running a stripped down version of Android. It was also very rugged. The only thing I didn't care for was the proprietary charger

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by an_aparallel on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:19AM (#37866983)
i would - 100% tomorrow if they met 2 conditions:

1) not android based..."dumb OS"...i just want it to make calls on 4g networks. 2) had qwerty.

Until then - grapheneOS on pixel.

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by b20000 on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:21AM (#37867001)
this

i thought about a punkt

but it is android

i want a phone for calls, text messages, uber, email and maps.

that is all i need

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by an_aparallel on Friday October 13, 2023 @07:13AM (#37869289)
the new nokia brick re-incarnations are 4g - and run on s20+ OS which is something bare metal, not android. Just need QWERTY!!!
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by zolbrek on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:06PM (#37872876)
I tried going back to a dumb phone in 2011 after having previously used an iPhone 3gs, I was able to manage just fine back then but I don't think I would be able to now. I used my dumb phone until the Nexus 4 came out and I started playing around with Cyanogenmod.
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by alxmng on Friday October 13, 2023 @02:11PM (#37873648)
I've mostly replaced my iPhone with an Apple Watch. It has cellular connectivity so I can text/call/pay. I leave the phone at home and pretty much forget about it.
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here dropped smartphones and used a du... by clubm8 on Friday October 13, 2023 @06:23PM (#37876272)
I considered it but all the dumbphones were using insecure 2G