The difference is that these 3 companies already have a market, Apple doesn't even bother trying to convince people to get games on the platform, other than iOS. I don't think they care about gaming on macs at all.

You are just spreading FUD at this point, they do care, devs just don't want to bother, that's different

https://developer.apple.com/games/

I just checked out their forum and I can only wonder why. There seem to be multiple cries for help from devs with no comments.

Making games is already difficult, nobody wants to do extra mile to support a platform, Valve made the right choice with proton, unfortunately, that means less incentives to have a native gaming experience on Linux.. I'd say the tradeoff is worth it

Apple should do something similar, but they'll never do since their users expect quality over anything else, wich is why they market Game Porting Toolkit as a testing platform, as opposed to a shipping platform for Valve's Proton, even thought it's basically the same project, 2 different culture, Valve doesn't care if the experience is worse

Have you checked the developer forums for any product made by a large company? I promise you they're they exact same.

There are plenty of reasons to not support macOS for your game, but this one isn't it.

I just meant, that if the process to get help isn't helpful. A lot of new comers won't try.

> Apple doesn't even bother trying to convince people to get games on the platform…

Don't they? https://developer.apple.com/wwdc23/topics/graphics-games/

> …other than iOS.

macOS on Apple Silicon supports iOS apps/games, so many "iOS" games work great on macOS.

That's great if you want to play phone games on your mac.

As well as games that work great on tablets, TVs, and HMDs as well, yes.

Honestly doubt your average touch optimised iPhone game works "great" on TVs.

I bet candy crush looks great on a 27" retina display. /s

I've been deeply coupled to Apple since 2005 and it's safe to say they've made stabbing attempts at getting serious about this a dozen times, real serious ones too, but inevitably it doesn't matter.

The most recent one that comes to mind is Mac x VR marketing push...4 years back? Ended it complete tears, SteamVR isn't even available for Mac anymore. And it was depressingly obvious at the time there was no reason for it to work out, it was clear ARM Macs were coming very soon.

The fact that they view a stabbing attempt as a step toward being serious seems like a big part of the issue. In order to have a successful platform, you need to be dedicated to the idea of being a platform and continue pouring in the resources whether it feels like it's aligned with this quarter's business themes or not.

It allows them avoid being compared to PC's . They don't have worry about someone saying the Mac sucks for playing game X... because nobody will even try.

It bolsters their image that they're not just another PC.

> Apple doesn't even bother trying to convince people to get games on the platform

Presumably why Sonoma introduced a 'gaming mode' for the first time.

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213658

This is also probably why they have built a suite of tools to encourage game developers to the platform:

https://developer.apple.com/games/

Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft either offer direct support of APIs very similar to PC ones, have first-party supported wrappers or otherwise have well supported tooling which supports the platform.

Eg Microsoft's graphics API is also just a DX12 variant, Nintendo Switch supports Vulkan and OpenGL, and while I'm not informed about Sony's current systems, their APIs were previously fairly close to OpenGL/Vulkan in design. They all also put in a lot more effort to accommodate game developers than Apple's "my way or the highway" approach to everything.

On top of all that, as dedicated gaming devices, they have momentum going for them which results in game dev tooling being ported because, well, they're devices meant primarily for gaming. Plus, they all have many first party studios with very popular IPs. Apple has none of this going for it.

Pretty much no one uses Vulkan on switch, and gl only gets used by small indies that aren't using a major engine and couldn't/wouldn't partner with a porting studio. NVN is just significantly faster than either of those (and the switch needs all the help it can get performance wise)

The Witcher 3 on Switch is a Vulkan title for example. While a lot of titles aren't Vulkan, some heavyweights on the platform are.