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Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by spacephysics on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @10:17AM (#37832440)
A similar analogy can be made with the likes of westward expansion in the continental US.

Back then, you got a piece of land, and really could do what you wanted with it. Build a business, farm, etc. some government taxes but nothing crazy. But you had to deal with criminals, lack of access to medical care, and lack of education.

Now to do the same, you have a slew of building codes, regulations, zoning laws, and are basically forced to have municipal services. Higher Taxes to pay the roads, police force, fire fighters, education services etc.

However, home owners can still just have an egg or vegetable stand at the end of their driveway. It won’t be the same as having a storefront in town, but it’s still doable without the overhead.

Similarly, as the internet matures, we’re going to see more and more overhead to sustain a “basic” business.

But you can still have a personal blog ran in your closet, for lower-level traffic.

The analogy isn’t perfect, but unfortunately as threat-actor’s budgets increase, so too do their quality/sophistication of their attacks. If it was cheap to defend against some of the more costly attacks, they would find a different vector.

The answer, to me, is some tangential technology that is some mix of federated or decentralization. Not in a crypto bro sense, but just some tech whose fundamental design solves the inherit problem with how our web is built today.

Then threat actors will find another way, rinse and repeat…

Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by dmd on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @10:24AM (#37832513)
> home owners can still just have an egg or vegetable stand at the end of their driveway

No you can't. That is illegal without a "cottage food" license, training, and labeling in most of the US.

https://www.pickyourown.org/CottageFoodLawsByState.htm

Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by glompers on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @10:35AM (#37832655)
Okay but does that mean anything regarding the parent commentor's analogy or the article?
Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by bombcar on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @10:26AM (#37832542)
Child-run lemonade stands are technically illegal in most states (some have actually carved out exemptions for them because of overzealous policing).

Garage sales often have a specific carve out, also, and limitations on numbers of time per year, etc.

Most areas nobody cares at all until it becomes a nuisance somehow.

Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by adrianN on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @10:38AM (#37832690)
Selectively enforced laws are the worst kind of law.
Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by bombcar on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @10:53AM (#37832877)
I've always thought it would be interesting to allow as a defense against a violation of a law to prove that the law is regularly violated without consequence.

Because selectively enforced laws are just another way of saying you have a king at some level, the person who decides to enforce or not.

Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by zaroth on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @11:09AM (#37833058)
Selective prosecution is a defense under the Equal Protection clause of the Constitution.

However, the Supreme Court has left the prescribed remedy intentionally vague since 1996, which in turn makes the claims themselves less likely to be raised, and less likely to succeed.

https://wlr.law.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/1263/2022/...

Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by jrockway on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @11:08AM (#37833039)
You have some control over this as an ordinary citizen. Next time you're on a jury for a lemonade stand violation, nullify.
Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by not2b on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @11:32AM (#37833425)
Has a lemonade stand violation ever resulted in a jury trial in the US? I'm skeptical. In places that enforce those rules, usually what happens is that the cops tell the parent it isn't allowed, the kid shuts it down and there's no fine.
Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by lazide on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:03PM (#37835364)
Or it turns into a giant PR disaster for the cops.
Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by acheron on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:44PM (#37835854)
Don't tell that to the GDPR defenders.
Re:Google mitigated the largest DDoS attack to date, peaking... by adrianN on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @02:44AM (#37841674)
I am a gdpr defender. I would like stricter enforcement.