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Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by chuckmeyer on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:43PM (#37822259)
Algolian here -- We were rolling out a new version of the HN search but accidentally swapped over the DNS before we were ready.

I've got a group of folks over here working to restore the search. Sorry for the downtime, but it's nice to know the search is useful to so many!

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by __rito__ on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:24PM (#37822832)
> * it's nice to know the search is useful to so many!*

Well, this is basically how I do all my reading (books) now. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37761636

I also search here before I start learning something new. Resources recommended on HN are almost always great!

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by chhabraamit on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:45PM (#37823095)
tell me more about your searching process here
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by eigenvalue on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:52PM (#37822391)
One of the best features of the site. Thanks for your service.
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by NKosmatos on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:58PM (#37822485)
Thanks for providing the search functionality. I always use it before submitting something, in case someone else has already posted it recently.

@dang It would be great if this duplicate search functionality was embedded in the HN submission form ;-)

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by lolinder on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:03PM (#37822557)
It actually is, for exact URL matches: if you try to submit a URL that has a recent exact match, it will just redirect you to that submission instead of creating a new one.
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by ehsankia on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:26PM (#37822859)
Does it do any URL cleaning, removing fragments, maybe normalizing shortlinks?
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by lolinder on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:31PM (#37822928)
No idea, I haven't ever intentionally tried to break it, I've just noticed it redirect me sometimes. I always clean my own links before attempting to submit.
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by nubinetwork on Monday October 09, 2023 @04:34PM (#37825167)
Except when it doesn't and people submit the same link several times a week
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by atonse on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:25PM (#37822842)
It is very useful, I use it at least once a week.

I even use it for more organic product research. “What have people on HN said about _____ over the years?”

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by caprock on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:46PM (#37822303)
Out of curiosity, what functionality is forthcoming with the new version?
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by chuckmeyer on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:56PM (#37822442)
It's mostly a tech-stack update, but it resolves some longstanding edge cases in the search UI as well. I'll try to get a changelog when we have it up and running.
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by rolph on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:35PM (#37822969)
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Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by swores on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:17PM (#37823415)
I would guess it's not that people have "problems with questions", but are downvoting you for one or both of a) using multiple comments to ask the same question, and b) coming across as using a badgering tone, sounding entitled and complaining when you're talking to people who provide a free service to you, and acting like they owe you a comment reply rather than waiting for the change log they've said will be released when they're ready.
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by rolph on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:29PM (#37823558)
thanks for the answer. there seem to be assumptions

>>coming across as using a badgering tone, sounding entitled and complaining when you're talking to people who provide a free service to you<<

but your answer is genuinely more informative, and intellectually mature than a DV based on assumption of bad faith

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by natebc on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:46PM (#37822309)
hugops engaged, thanks for your efforts running that for us!
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by joshmanders on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:44PM (#37822269)
Thanks for being on top of this. I just came to the site to search for something and noticed no DNS found, then saw this post on the front page!
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by malkia on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:17PM (#37822729)
That's how I learned about Algolia!
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by teruakohatu on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:56PM (#37822449)
> it's nice to know the search is useful to so many!

I use it every few days. It's exceptionally useful. Thank you for providing it.

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by pgt on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:51PM (#37822378)
I use it all the time :)
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by pierat on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:09PM (#37822635)
It's ALWAYS dns :D
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by rolph on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:54PM (#37822423)
what does algolia search do now that it didnt do before; what does it no longer do; and how does this version change influence UX on HN ?

How does this stand to benefit algolia ?

i for one, was having no problems with the search, what made this nessecary ?

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by throwaway11004 on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:16PM (#37822720)
The HN search is a demo/advertisement of Algolia search engine that they run for free. They can update it even if you didn't need any updates.
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by rolph on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:29PM (#37822897)
so what i want to know in basic language is, why was the update nessecary?

security holes?

new features?

new shiny version, is better by default?

previous version was deficient with respect to 'modern' tech?

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by JdeBP on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:55PM (#37823190)
You are erroneously assuming that the update was for reasons visible to end users like you.

I am sure that Hacker News commenters are a vast mine of "Well, one day we were updating to the new machine to finally get rid of the one with the knackered RAID controller …" type anecdotes illustrating not only the other reasons that upgrades happen but also what can occur when they are performed.

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by rolph on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:04PM (#37823279)
>>You are erroneously assuming that the update was for reasons visible to end users like you.<<

asking about something, is not assuming it is true.

asking is about receiving information to clarify murk.

there are a lot of others comments, that are accusations of bad faith, and seem to be doing well.

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by splines_tines on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:48PM (#37822329)
Surprised to see from your LinkedIn that you are US based. I thought from browsing Algolia's hiring page the other day that they're strictly European.

Are they nixing all US-based roles now to cut costs?

https://www.algolia.com/careers/

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by chuckmeyer on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:02PM (#37822547)
Nope -- we're global. Paris, Sydney, SF, London, Austin, NYC, Belarus -- and lots of remote rolls. Send me a resume if you're looking!
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by unixhero on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:49PM (#37822359)
He doesn't need to answer that question
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by splines_tines on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:51PM (#37822377)
I never said he did. Everyone is welcome to answer or not answer any question posed to them by strangers over the internet. I'm just curious and probably won't have a better opportunity to ask. It wasn't intended to be hostile
Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by tamimio on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:00PM (#37823242)
> Algolian here

Is that just a way to identify you are affiliated with it or do you guys actually call yourselves algolians inside the company? Nonetheless, good work on the update and fixing it.

Re:DNS record "hn.algolia.com" is gone by Rumel57 on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:14PM (#37823386)
Yes we call ourselves Algolians within the company.