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Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by vodou on Monday October 09, 2023 @07:20AM (#37819172)
It is not the Nobel prize, it is the Sveriges Riksbank prize in economic sciences in memory of Alfred Nobel.
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by morita2342 on Monday October 09, 2023 @07:26AM (#37819224)
It‘s a marketing scheme for the pseudoscience of economics. It’s a disgrace that the Swedish academy of Sciences lends them their platform.
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by grotorea on Monday October 09, 2023 @07:58AM (#37819482)
A bit too far for me but it is unfair that economics gets one but the other fields neglected by Nobel don't.
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by pavlov on Monday October 09, 2023 @08:16AM (#37819638)
It’s a practical example of how economics is unique among sciences in that it’s a marketing discipline as well.

Nobel didn’t give us a prize? That’s just a problem to be solved with money and social engineering, like so many aspects of economics.

Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by RandomLensman on Monday October 09, 2023 @08:25AM (#37819697)
Nothing unique there. Physics does a lot of marketing, too (including claiming economics as part of physics at times).
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by itishappy on Monday October 09, 2023 @09:58AM (#37820506)
String Theory has revolutionary results coming any decade now, just you wait!
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by VHRanger on Monday October 09, 2023 @08:04AM (#37819537)
Right, a pseudoscience and here we have someone who won doing exclusively empirical work.

Not sure how you match those two but keep at it

Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by glimshe on Monday October 09, 2023 @08:25AM (#37819700)
There has been substantial amount of empirical work on remote seeing and telepathy, including some that "prove" them to be true.
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by neaden on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:30PM (#37822096)
Doing a legitimate experiment on remote seeing for instance is by definition science, just like doing experiments trying to prove luminiferous ether were science back in the 19th century. Science is a methodology, not facts and something doesn't become science just because your hypothesis is correct or incorrect.
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by SantalBlush on Monday October 09, 2023 @03:02PM (#37823960)
Right, the question is whether the hypothesis or theory is falsifiable, regardless of the subject matter. Economic theories are falisifable; we can see pretty clearly how much the theoretical models deviate from observation.
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by boxed on Monday October 09, 2023 @08:17AM (#37819648)
Plenty of people do empirical work in pseudoscience...
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by brightball on Monday October 09, 2023 @08:27AM (#37819715)
So many claims I see published across many fields fall apart with even minor scrutiny. What makes economics special?
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by BiasRegularizer on Monday October 09, 2023 @08:57AM (#37819990)
What aspects of the economic studies makes it a pseudoscience? Highly empirical, sure, but so does modern machine learning.
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by mempko on Monday October 09, 2023 @10:54AM (#37821081)
economists proudly ignore real world data. They care about their models, even when they are obviously wrong.

Milton Friedman said "Truly important and significant hypotheses will be found to have 'assumptions' that are wildly inaccurate descriptive representations of reality, and, in general, the more significant the theory, the more unrealistic the assumptions."

Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by slothtrop on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:45PM (#37822282)
This is a projection. Economics has done better to improve reproducibility of research over several decades than any other social science.
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by BurningFrog on Monday October 09, 2023 @09:48AM (#37820420)
To me the "economics is not real science" people is much like the "evolution is just a theory" crowd. When you don't like the results, it is comforting to find a way to not believe it.

I have a pretty serious physics education, and in my older days I find Economics to be the most fascinating science. It makes much of society understandable in ays tha were not possible before.

That said, the sub field of Macro Economics is a very difficult field for several reasons, and it may be impossible to get very far on it. But that is only one branch on that tree.

Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by jononomo on Monday October 09, 2023 @10:39AM (#37820902)
I confess to being one of those people who doesn't believe Darwinian evolution explains the origin of species (let alone the origin of life). Of course, I see myself as taking an entirely empirical and scientific perspective, but I do understand that those who approach the question with a blind faith in a materialist worldview (and buy into a "materialism of the gaps" perspective) will not be able to accept any empirical evidence or scientific argument that contradicts their presuppositions.
Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by LudwigNagasena on Monday October 09, 2023 @12:42PM (#37822252)
Most of econ is still by far more scientific than sociology, psychology, other various humanities and maybe even climate science.

Okay, a Swedish institute once a year awards less money than an average startup gets at a Series A. Is it really such a disgrace compared to what’s actually going on in academia every day?

Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by vodou on Monday October 09, 2023 @09:36AM (#37820330)
I now regret making this remark.

My purpose was not to be dismissive of economics as a proper science. It was just a clarification the this prize is not part of the Alfred Nobel's will, it was instituted in 1968 by Sweden's central bank (in a way that you might call a bit shady).

Nowadays, Swedish media is quite good at making this distinction, but international media is still rather confused about this.

Re:2023 Nobel Prize in economics awarded to Claudia Goldin by maxverse on Monday October 09, 2023 @07:36PM (#37826818)
I didn't see your initial remark, but I wanted to commend you for saying this; it's so rare to see any kind of regret or change in opinion in an online discourse. Thank you for following up.