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Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by spandextwins on Thursday October 05, 2023 @03:53PM (#37783455)
We used to use H1b programmers to churn out tons of somewhat buggy code. It was a lot of code, and the defect rate was pretty high, but for the cost and the amount it was ok.

We’d have the pool of high end senior developers debug and fix their code once it passed some basic unit tests.

So our cost per thousand lines of code was pretty low.

Now we’ve transitioned to mostly AI writing the bulk of the code with the senior developers still doing their thing.

We’ve found the code quality coming out of our AI is a lot better than the H1b’s could produce.

Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by screamingninja on Thursday October 05, 2023 @04:00PM (#37783543)
> We’ve found the code quality coming out of our AI is a lot better than the H1b’s could produce.

Are you seriously perpetuating stereotypes against a set of people based on their immigration status?

Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by AlmostGreyBeard on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:33PM (#37784563)
No, he's saying he had cheap coders creating cheap code.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by spandextwins on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:36PM (#37784596)
Absolutely.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by jrflowers on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:01PM (#37784845)
Of course not, why would you write “cheap” when you can write “h1b”? Referring to people by only the noun of their immigration status with no other information in no way has any reflection on how GP thinks about anyone based on their immigration status.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by codeisawesome on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:06PM (#37784887)
Yep, and what’s more, I’m sure that commenter is not referring to, say, ethnically German or French visa holders when disparaging “all those H1Bs” ;) I’ve learned to not be surprised by the persistent and nasty ‘community’ of these types of commenters here on HN, fortunately they’re not the majority.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by lmm on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:21PM (#37785009)
An immigration status that's routinely abused to bring in underpaid workers to suppress wages; it's not a personal attack to say that those exploited workers will generally be low-skill, any more than stereotyping PHBs or management consultants or first-year students as ignorant is.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by redox99 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @04:18PM (#37783773)
> Now we’ve transitioned to mostly AI writing the bulk of the code with the senior developers still doing their thing.

> We’ve found the code quality coming out of our AI is a lot better than the H1b’s could produce.

That sounds weird. In my testing GPT4 falls apart for medium/large codebases. It's good for small microservices though.

Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by efnx on Thursday October 05, 2023 @03:54PM (#37783471)
Really? And which model? What kind of setup are you using?
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by footy on Thursday October 05, 2023 @04:44PM (#37784069)
I think if I worked somewhere where the other employees (or worse,the higher ups) talked about me that way I'd produce shit code too. Doing more than the bare minimum is reserved for places where I'm respected, and I doubt I'm the only one.