Re:How to set up an anonymous user flow
by LoganDark on Monday October 02, 2023 @01:03PM
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> For many applications, a user is forced to register for application access. You want to know who the user is so you can provide them with individualized functionality and data.
> If your registration process requires an email or mobile phone number, registration allows you to market to your customers. This is great if you are pursuing a Product-led growth or freemium business model. Having contact information allows you to communicate with them directly, allowing you to remind them of the value of your application and driving re-engagement.
Ugh, this article is discusting. I can't bear to read the rest. "Having contact information allows you to communicate with them directly, allowing you to remind them of the value of your application" please no. No.
Definitely super grateful for Firefox Relay right about now.
Re:How to set up an anonymous user flow
by JohnFen on Monday October 02, 2023 @06:29PM
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Yep.
And the ad industry has been greatly encouraging applications and websites to have user accounts specifically as a way to work around the decreased ability to track people.
It's why I've adopted the policy of not signing up for accounts with anything unless the application or service is one I literally can't do without. Fortunately, the number of things that qualify as genuinely mandatory is within a rounding error of zero.
Re:How to set up an anonymous user flow
by JohnFen on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @10:53AM
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I never make an account anymore for things like travel booking. My experience has been that signing up for an account will result in a lot more spam than checking out as guest.
Re:How to set up an anonymous user flow
by tough on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @12:18PM
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OK, will have in mind to provide such a escape hatch to privacy conscious customers, but a company doing this right would just enable you to disable all subscriptions...
Adversarial thinking works for today's fucked up world but leaves those honest not even able to try in such a paradigm
Re:How to set up an anonymous user flow
by JohnFen on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @03:43PM
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My assumption is that signing up results in more spam even though the company has my email address either way because the act of signing up puts me in a demographic that tends to respond better to unsolicited emails -- so the company makes more from selling my data when I've made an account.
But it's only an assumption.
> Adversarial thinking works for today's fucked up world but leaves those honest not even able to try in such a paradigm
Indeed, and this is a real problem I've encountered in my own business ventures. It doesn't take that many people to pee in the pool before others start getting hesitant about swimming.
But we have to find a way to operate in the world as it exists, not as we wish it exists.
Re:How to set up an anonymous user flow
by jareklupinski on Monday October 02, 2023 @01:08PM
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Used my phone's "Hide my identity" feature for the first time to sign up for a relatively well-known service.
Now I'm forever known to everyone on that service as an unintelligible string, since their login flow freezes the name you give them on signup, so I couldnt even fix it if I enjoyed the service.
> If your registration process requires an email or mobile phone number, registration allows you to market to your customers. This is great if you are pursuing a Product-led growth or freemium business model. Having contact information allows you to communicate with them directly, allowing you to remind them of the value of your application and driving re-engagement.
Ugh, this article is discusting. I can't bear to read the rest. "Having contact information allows you to communicate with them directly, allowing you to remind them of the value of your application" please no. No.
Definitely super grateful for Firefox Relay right about now.
And the ad industry has been greatly encouraging applications and websites to have user accounts specifically as a way to work around the decreased ability to track people.
It's why I've adopted the policy of not signing up for accounts with anything unless the application or service is one I literally can't do without. Fortunately, the number of things that qualify as genuinely mandatory is within a rounding error of zero.
Like does it really matter if you get an account or not, when you're already providing all your PII for the ticket?
Asking because I'm wondering if I need a -checkout as guest- thing or not...
Adversarial thinking works for today's fucked up world but leaves those honest not even able to try in such a paradigm
But it's only an assumption.
> Adversarial thinking works for today's fucked up world but leaves those honest not even able to try in such a paradigm
Indeed, and this is a real problem I've encountered in my own business ventures. It doesn't take that many people to pee in the pool before others start getting hesitant about swimming.
But we have to find a way to operate in the world as it exists, not as we wish it exists.
Now I'm forever known to everyone on that service as an unintelligible string, since their login flow freezes the name you give them on signup, so I couldnt even fix it if I enjoyed the service.