Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by thorin on Monday October 02, 2023 @04:12AM
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Wales (UK) did this about a week ago. Setting 20mph as a limit in urban areas. I was there yesterday and now the problem is that it's very unclear where exactly it applies and if it will be enforced. Also satnavs such as Apple and Google maps have not been updated for the new speeds leading to further confusion. There are some areas where this makes sense, but a blanket change seems political. Hopefully it will cause less pollution and accidents in the future and not just be used as a money making scheme for fining people.
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Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by pastyboy on Monday October 02, 2023 @04:22AM
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Less pollution not so much, everyone will be in 2nd gear, less deaths perhaps.
Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by okokwhatever on Monday October 02, 2023 @04:26AM
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Is demonstrated pollution with such slow speed will increase dramatically. Next stage, take out cars from the center of the cities totally. Good luck if you bought there a house to take your kids to the college or to go to a better supermarket.
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Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by rsynnott on Monday October 02, 2023 @05:32AM
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So, first of all, realistically most cars in cities are operating at these sorts of speeds for _most_ of the time, anyway. This won't make a huge difference to _average_ speed. But also, this feels like optimising for the past, frankly. Over 50% of cars sold in the EU last year were either electric, or some sort of hybrid (hybrids generally are about as efficient at 30km/h as 50km/h). Netherlands seems to be further along this curve; 45% of cars sold last year were electric or plugin hybrid (stats seem hard to come by for light hybrids), up from 30% the previous year.
Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by shortcake27 on Monday October 02, 2023 @06:22AM
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I don’t understand this comment. In a city like Amsterdam you certainly don’t need a car to go to the supermarket or college. I’ve lived in cities with far worse public transport and no car and had no issues.
Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by spiderfarmer on Monday October 02, 2023 @04:29AM
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Maybe indirectly. Driving electric at that speed is pretty comfortable and clean.
Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by lostlogin on Monday October 02, 2023 @04:31AM
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Less braking will help with pollution a fair bit.
Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by Muromec on Monday October 02, 2023 @05:17AM
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In other news, Amsterdam bans all co2 emitting vehicles from the city starting 2025. Boats and bikes included
Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by pjc50 on Monday October 02, 2023 @06:07AM
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Banning CO2 emitting _boats_? That's a much larger change than I expected, because wow there are an awful lot of boats there.
Re:Amsterdam preparing to lower speed limit to 30 kilometers...
by jwestbury on Monday October 02, 2023 @05:47AM
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> now the problem is that it's very unclear where exactly it applies and if it will be enforced.
Isn't this quite clear in the highway code? If there are no signs, use street lamps -- they're the proxy we're generally given for this.