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Re:WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight by ValentineC on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:42PM (#37699034)
For Panasonic's in-flight wifi specifically, a login would only work for one device at a time.

Great time to have an Android device with hotspot handy. :)

Re:WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight by hunter2_ on Friday September 29, 2023 @12:20AM (#37699232)
The fact that newer phones (Pixel at least) can use WiFi (client mode) as the WAN/uplink side of its hotspot stack (NAT, AP, etc.) is pretty neat. Not long ago, only the cell modem could serve in that capacity, as far as I'm aware. Frankly I'm surprised a single WLAN radio can pull that off.

Most laptops can't do this, right?

Re:WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight by grishka on Friday September 29, 2023 @01:15AM (#37699543)
> Frankly I'm surprised a single WLAN radio can pull that off.

Maybe at the cost of latency because it has to switch channels back and forth?

> Most laptops can't do this, right?

Any laptop can do this if you plug a USB WiFi dongle into it :P

Re:WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight by cromka on Friday September 29, 2023 @03:19AM (#37700334)
It doesn’t have to switch channels, it will create another station using same channel.
Re:WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight by avidiax on Friday September 29, 2023 @03:21AM (#37700348)
> Maybe at the cost of latency because it has to switch channels back and forth?

Not necessarily. It can be a client on 2.4Ghz and an access point on 5Ghz. Even without that, if it has MIMO, then one of the antennas can be receiving 2.4Ghz while the other is sending (at least in theory, if the crosstalk between the antennas is low and the selectivity of the receiver is sufficient).

Re:WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight by Sophira on Friday September 29, 2023 @01:46PM (#37707759)
Windows has been able to do exactly this since Windows 7! It's called Wireless Hosted Network[0], and if you've ever seen the "Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter" (Windows 7) or "Microsoft Wi-Fi Direct Virtual Adapter" (Windows 10/11) in your list of network adapters (it may be hidden), it's there specifically to enable making a hotspot while being connected to a wireless network.

[0] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/nativewifi/a...

Re:WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight by hunter2_ on Friday September 29, 2023 @07:33PM (#37711346)
Neat!