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Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by JohnFen on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:26PM (#37691940)
Maybe this is the answer to a disconnect I've noticed. A number of devs where I work have started using ChatGPT to help with their work, but it hasn't resulted in any noticeable productivity or quality gains.

But the devs here are all very experienced senior-level engineers. Perhaps that's why we aren't seeing any gains?

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by giantg2 on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:47PM (#37692251)
Of it's anything like my job, it's likely that a majority of the slowness is in the non-coding steps - meetings, upgrades/config, business ideation and prioritization, etc.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by ryandrake on Thursday September 28, 2023 @01:54PM (#37693189)
I mean, that's like most non-junior software development jobs--at least it has been the case for all the ones I've had: Actual, physical, typing-in-of-code is usually about 5-10% of any software developer's job. The rest is tools management, configuration, compiling, merging/source control, code reviews, helping other developers, brainstorming, planning, design reviews, bug management, status reporting, project management rituals like scrum, and so on.

I think many software developers have this romantic, idealized notion that their entire job should be furiously typing code into a computer, and that anything else they have to grudgingly do is unproductive overhead.

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by hackermatic on Thursday September 28, 2023 @01:42PM (#37693006)
I was asked to help evaluate a couple code-generating LLMs at work, so I set out to build a couple toy apps in languages and frameworks I wasn't very familiar with.

My experience was that it was about as useful as searching Google and Stack Overflow without knowing what a good answer looks like. You copy and paste a lot of code, a lot of it works, but inevitably, something breaks and you have no idea why. So you still have to go back to "the hard way" of reading the documentation and building an understanding.

I'm sure things will improve over time, especially for products built specifically for code generation, but my first and second impression is that so far, LLMs don't actually lower the bar for junior programmers.

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by smabie on Thursday September 28, 2023 @06:17PM (#37696618)
Maybe the devs now can work fewer hours since they more productive per hour.

Otherwise you're suggesting that these senior devs are using a tool which provides no value whatsoever which seems unlikely.