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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by MagicMoonlight on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @01:00AM (#37670367)
I don’t want Facebook to be able to say that I can’t use Whatsapp unless I install their rootkit store.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by nrabulinski on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @01:48AM (#37670670)
That’s great because with the platform being open you’ll be able to sideload it like any other app :)
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by Moldoteck on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @03:29AM (#37671322)
If they do this, maybe not use Wa at all?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by throwaway29645 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:13AM (#37671642)
I'm not aware of any other alternative client available other than the default Meta one.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by Moldoteck on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:30AM (#37671773)
I mean, just don't use it. Also there are matrix/element, signal, telegram(a bit worse for security), or you can use Beeper if WA is so mega important
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by Manfred on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:38AM (#37671836)
I personally don’t use WhatsApp because I enjoy it, it’s just the app with the critical mass in my family and friend group.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by Moldoteck on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:05AM (#37672051)
I've used messenger in the past, after that i've just convinced family/friends to install telegram and chat there. Now I'm thinking abt moving to Signal, so imo, it's not that a big deal, users can migrate/install alternatives. If ppl care, they'll install an app to communicate with you, if they don't, well...
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by laserlight on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @08:04AM (#37673442)
Were you also able to convince your employer, repairmen, local communities to leave WhatsApp? I am among the least connected people among various circles I am in, yet I'm not able to leave WhatsApp.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by TheHappyOddish on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @10:06AM (#37674863)
You're aware that not every country is your country, right? In some places WhatsApps is culturally relevant and is used by government, business, etc.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by chrisandchris on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @06:59AM (#37672916)
Couldn't one just argue the same about Apple? I mean, if you don't like their lock-in, then just don't use it.

I don't want to use WhatsApp, but it's a quasi monopoly in messaging in many countries and thei're not opening up their APIs for others. We should force them too, shouldn't we?

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by nerdix on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @08:39AM (#37673768)
Just another reason why messaging should be an open standard and not proprietary.

I'm okay with the government forcing WhatsApp (and Apple too for that matter) to adopt the messaging standard.

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by oaiey on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @03:59AM (#37671539)
Did not happen on Android at least in the western hemisphere.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by ranguna on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:01AM (#37671552)
Yep, just like they do on android. Oh... Wait a second, they don't do that.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by laserlight on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @08:06AM (#37673451)
> Wait a second, they don't do that.

Do they need to do that, in the first place? And, is there a guarantee that they won't?

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by ranguna on Friday September 29, 2023 @04:11AM (#37700722)
All I know is that they didn't do it.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by oblio on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:31AM (#37672293)
Ummm... have you ever used Android? :-)
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by fennecfoxy on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @09:18AM (#37674237)
Then don't use Whatsapp if that's the case? I notice so many people complaining about so many things but they refuse to boycott them.

If >x% of the population actually take action on any issue, it'll get solved.

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by jononomo on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @11:17AM (#37675890)
If you live in Costa Rica, then you have no choice but to use WhatsApp. I suppose technically could you could choose to be entirely unable to communicate and to be left out of the economy, but that's not much of a choice.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by fennecfoxy on Monday October 02, 2023 @09:08AM (#37737575)
That is still a choice, though, even if it's a sucky one. Sounds like people are forced to choose WA in lieu of starving because they have no/less income.

Boycotting requires a sacrifice and of course I understand that for some the sacrifice is too great; I wouldn't blame them at all.

But my point was more, in the West people make so much noise about stuff and yet do nothing. And we are all generally quite privileged compared to some other parts of the world.