Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by martimarkov on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:42PM
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You have freedom to chose the platform.
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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by Aeolun on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:56PM
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I have the freedom to choose between Google or Apple. That’s not very free at all.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by rTX5CMRXIfFG on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @08:36PM
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lol that isnt going to change even if they allow app sideloading or other web browser engines
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by kaba0 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @02:15AM
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It has to be usable.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by jker on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @03:18AM
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"Starting at $2,199"
Freedom isn't free, apparently.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by oblio on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:29AM
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Not if you care about externalities, it isn't.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by Scharkenberg on Thursday September 28, 2023 @06:05AM
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It's not (just) because of externalities that that model costs 2199 USD.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by oblio on Thursday September 28, 2023 @06:35AM
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but what else is included in that cost, in your opinion?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by Scharkenberg on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @08:41AM
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Economies of scale / specialized production / labor costs / higher margins on "premium" production lines.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by tmpX7dMeXU on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @09:04PM
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What do you actually WANT then?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by copperx on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @10:06PM
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A Windows phone. Just kidding. Kind of.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by sfg on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:35AM
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Everyone I know who had one (okay, that's not many people...) loved it.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by copperx on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @12:35PM
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It did have a soft real-time kernel. Most of my frustration with mobile devices is UI unresponsiveness at random times, even with the latest hardware.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by matheusmoreira on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @02:56AM
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I want the keys to the machine. I want corporations to accept that and deal with us on our terms.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by Aeolun on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @06:24AM
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I want nobody to force me to use the hardware I paid for in a specific way, especially if that arbitrarily limits the functionality of the device.
If there were more than just those two providers (say, 10) we’d likely have at least one option like that.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by adesanmi on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @07:37AM
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So you go to purchase a device from a company who has been doing this since their very existence, is known for doing this, and has never pretended or tricked consumers into thinking they don’t do this. A closed ecosystem is Apple’s M.O. - and I can’t think of any sane person who cares about repairability who goes to them. They all own open phones such as the Fairphone. I love mine.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by blackoil on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @10:16PM
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Yeah two American companies with HQ next to each other.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by jahav on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @11:45PM
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Huawei and HarmonyOS? I know, rather unpopular ouside of China.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by wkat4242 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @12:08AM
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That's simply rebranded Android.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by pixl97 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @12:04AM
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Not even sure they're allowed to be imported into the US.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by kaba0 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @02:14AM
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Where do you want to get punched, in the stomach or in your face?
Similar dilemma.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by matheusmoreira on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @02:55AM
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Not if you want to run WhatsApp or your bank's app.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by toastal on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:10AM
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Even the KaiOS support ended for WhatsApp. That’s not to say anyone should use that metadata-scraping, address-book-stealing service anyhow.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by matheusmoreira on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:36AM
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If only I could avoid it. Everyone in my country uses WhatsApp for literally everything. My choices are: (1) using WhatsApp, or (2) being ostracized.
At least it has end-to-end encryption.