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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by stale2002 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @06:51PM (#37666917)
There will be! After the law goes into effect it will be the iPhone.

Feel free to not install internet browsers that you don't like though.

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by HWR_14 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:04PM (#37667059)
Google search, Youtube and many other properties will only work with Chromium as soon as it doesn't mean saying goodbye to iOS users.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by kibwen on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:09PM (#37667115)
The mindset here is so alien to me. Do people think that the EU is willing to take action against Apple, and yet somehow unwilling to take action against Google?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by shuckles on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:28PM (#37667334)
It’s pretty reasonable to believe whatever action it takes will be a long ways away, a period during which the user experience will suffer. You don’t have to believe they’ll never act; you just have to believe they’ll act slowly and poorly. For example, the proposal to force iMessage interoperability which makes little sense and introduces security risks.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by HWR_14 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:11PM (#37667139)
It's currently happening. Try using YouTube or Google Search on the desktop with, for example, MS Edge. Google will tell you you should download Chrome to work better.

The only reason that's not the case on iOS devices is that they don't have that option.

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by kibwen on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:14PM (#37667184)
You have dodged the question. You think that the EU won't take action against Google?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by HWR_14 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:33PM (#37667388)
I'm not dodging the question. It is happening now and the EU is not taking action.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by labcomputer on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:28PM (#37667332)
Yes. A better question is why haven’t they taken action yet?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by troupo on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @09:13AM (#37674184)
They can always go the not-so-subtle sabotage route: https://archive.ph/tgIH9
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by artificial on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @08:21PM (#37667905)
MS Edge uses Blink under the hood, which is a Chrome fork. The monoculture is all but here, save for dwindling Firefox and Webkit. Everything else that's popular is effectively a Chrome skin, or if you like, Linux distributions packaging up stuff around the kernel (the rendering engine).
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by HWR_14 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @11:51PM (#37669850)
I didn't say Chrome would actually make it work better. The fact that MS decided not to maintain their version of Edge is a little frustrating, because more competition would be better. Indeed, that's why I want Safari to remain.

But even reskinned Chrome isn't safe from nag messages to switch to Chrome.

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by jwells89 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:58PM (#37667647)
I do think it’s unlikely, or at least unlikely to happen before the damage is done and we’re stuck with a permanent browser engine monoculture.

If they were rolling out policy to quash anticompetitive behavior in the browser space along with requiring Apple to open iOS up I’d be much more comfortable. The two should go hand in hand. I don’t want Google to have any opportunity to entrench Chrome/Blink on iOS.

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by rodgerd on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @10:26PM (#37669112)
Chrome is already a monopoly. Youtube is a monopoly. Point me to the EU action against them.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by CommanderData on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @08:24AM (#37673607)
Ontop Google has made it impossible for YouTube competitors with it's dominance with device integrations not just mobile.

There's little point as a creator to post on a platform with zero reach.

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by flenserboy on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @07:53AM (#37673339)
When one understands what Google is for, the answer becomes clear.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by tmtvl on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @09:13AM (#37674182)
The EU has already shown itself willing to fine Google for antitrust shenanigans: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/14/tech/google-loses-eu-fine...
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by smoldesu on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:09PM (#37667119)
Google Search, YouTube and many other Google properties are also subject to the same Digital Market Act regulations. Google is a designated gatekeeper, same as Apple.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by shuckles on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:30PM (#37667343)
The DMA largely regulates essential platform services, so it has little to say about YouTube steering users to Chrome, neither of which are platform services on iOS.