Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by cmiller1 on Monday September 25, 2023 @06:19PM
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I got to see an SR-71 on display in New York several years ago. What really struck me was how BIG it was, seeing pictures of it doesn't really give you sense of scale, it was a massive plane.
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Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by dboreham on Monday September 25, 2023 @06:29PM
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Even more impressive seeing it sweat fuel onto the apron in the afternoon sun for a few hours then engine ignition with Chevy V8 start cart, takeoff followed by low level transonic flyby.
Fairford IAT 1989.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by singleshot_ on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:37PM
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Weren’t those big blocks on the starter cart Buicks?
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by EdwardCoffin on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:50PM
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They were initially Buicks, then Chevy later on [1]
[1] https://www.thesr71blackbird.com/Aircraft/Engines/starting-t...
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by EdwardDiego on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:36PM
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That was a great read, thank you. TIL about TEB, and how at one point they were investigating coal slurry as a fuel? (Although tbh that sounds like someone having fun on Wikipedia).
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by EdwardCoffin on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:39PM
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You can hear the starter cart in some of the YouTube videos, like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFO--wzFfUs - it really gets going around the two minute mark.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by EdwardDiego on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:26PM
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What kinda specialised monster engines is that plane running, holy hell.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by spookie on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:17PM
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The fuel doesn't ignite at "low" temperatures, one reason is because the whole airplane leaks fuel until it's at an high enough speed. At that point, maybe because of the surface temperature, or the forces it tackles at Mach 3+, the whole thing becomes airtight.
At least, that's what I remember.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by NamTaf on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:21PM
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Yup, at Mach 3+ the fuselage expands so significantly that gaps need to exist when it’s stationary, otherwise it’d buckle. So the gaps mean it leaks fuel when stationary.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by chipsa on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @06:39AM
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It's not supposed to leak. It just that the sealant to bridge the gaps wasn't perfect, so it'd get some leaks through the sealant.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by NamTaf on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:27PM
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What’s more, at its highest speeds, the engine transitioned from conventional turbojet to mostly ramjet compression by extending/retracting a nose cone within each engine intake. Doing so moved the bow shockwave of the cone so that it reflected inside the engine intake, which had the effect of slowing the Mach 3 air down to subsonic speeds so it could be used for engine combustion. But even still, energies were so high that almost all the thrust came from afterburning - the engine combustion stages were basically just spinning as air went through them.
The whole plane is an engineering tour-de-force, especially considering it was designed with slide rules
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by adolph on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @08:25AM
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As I read it, not just one v8 but two, with straight pipes:
https://www.thesr71blackbird.com/Aircraft/Engines/starting-t...
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by jollyllama on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @09:38AM
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The DEF-H module contains the Diesel Exhaust Fluid for the truck.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by libertyhouse on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @10:02AM
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Not sure you are were trying to be serious or not, but the DEF-H was one of the defensive systems used to jam surface to air threats. The system had two "modules" with one in the left and one in the right chine.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by op00to on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:37PM
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You can get close enough to touch (but you mustn’t touch) the SR71 at the Udvar-Hazy center of the Smithsonian!
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by pythonguython on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:41PM
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You can also get close to an SR-71 at the Robins Air Force Base museum in Georgia, and if you touched it probably nobody would notice
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by TimTheTinker on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:40PM
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There's also one at the March air field museum (attached to March ARB, née March AFB) in Riverside, California.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by ecommerceguy on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:13PM
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Theres one at Strategic Air Command Museum in Nebraska.
https://www.sacmuseum.org/what-to-see/aircraft/sr-71a-blackb...
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by GolfPopper on Monday September 25, 2023 @11:34PM
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I've visited that one. As a someone who grew up during the Cold War, the idea that we've got these once super-secret military aircraft just sitting where any old tourist can walk up and take picture from a few feet away always generates some cognitive dissonance.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by mgsouth on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @08:52PM
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In Palmdale California, at the corner of 25th St E & E Palmdale Ave [1], there's what is essentially a parking lot with a chain link fence around it. Sitting there are a SR-71, a A-12, a D-21 (supersonic recon drone originally launched from A-12 variant), and a U-2. You can just sit there and take all the pictures you want.
[1] https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6026576,-118.0860601,117m/da...
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by op00to on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @03:07PM
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The important fact is missing - can you touch it?
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by racingmars on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:15PM
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I have definitely touched the SR-71 at the Evergreen museum in Oregon.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by op00to on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @03:08PM
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I'd feel more ok with touching an SR-71 at an AFB or the Evergreen museum, but the SMITHSONIAN? Never! :)
Was it rough or smooth? It looked smooth but I wonder if it felt rough!
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by the_af on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:43PM
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There's an A-12, the CIA version of the Blackbird, on the deck of the USS Intrepid, in New York. It is indeed a very large aircraft!
(I was also impressed by how many aircraft could fit on an aircraft carrier. There was also a Concorde!)
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by pests on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:41PM
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I was in NYC for the first time a few months ago in Hell's Kitchen. Looked out of the window from the top floor of a loft we were in and could see the USS Intrepid out the window. I wish I would have realized this sooner.
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by Tommstein on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:04PM
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Don't forget the Space Shuttle Enterprise complete with its own separate pavilion; aircraft carriers are indeed ginormous, and that's just an ancient WWII model: https://www.intrepidmuseum.org/Space_Shuttle_Pavilion.aspx
Re:SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by...
by the_af on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:49PM
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I forgot about it, and yeah, the Space Shuttle itself is pretty big and impressive. So this makes the size of the aircraft carrier even more amazing.