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Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by cratermoon on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @09:00PM (#37579182)
3 books a DAY? How about 3 books a month? Or 3 books a year? Only the most prolific authors have managed 3 books a month.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by paulpauper on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @09:20PM (#37579310)
because Amazon allows anything and no quality control. someone can just re-publish Wikipedia articles as books, which a lot of people do.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by koreth1 on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:46PM (#37579874)
What would "quality control" look like for self-published books?
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by envsubst on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:22PM (#37580067)
A 15 minute human review process that checks if it:

- is copy pasted from another source or the internet

- respects copyright

- is written in the language it says it is

In graduate school nobody can understand each other's papers, so the colleges set up a massive list of formatting guidelines. The idea being the focus on formatting means you at least had to spend a minimum amount of effort.

Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by dragonwriter on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:45PM (#37580157)
A 15-minute human review is not going to be able to check all three of those things, or really do much of a job on even either of the first two in isolation.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by envsubst on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @11:39PM (#37592959)
Automation + human judgement. It works for iOS.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by ceejayoz on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:22PM (#37580064)
Pay a few bucks for someone to skim through it?
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by balderdash on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:00PM (#37579580)
That would impede their money laundering and stolen credit card revenue…
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by selcuka on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:15PM (#37579678)
Money laundering might be a thing, but I can't see how they could benefit from stolen credit cards. They have to refund when the card owner contacts their bank, don't they?
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by ronsor on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:58PM (#37579934)
That assumes the cardholder actually realizes their card has been stolen. Many people may not notice an extra $50/month being siphoned from them, especially if they already use Amazon.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by hotnfresh on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:18PM (#37579697)
Well. A lot of things suddenly make a lot more sense now.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by Ancalagon on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:02PM (#37579596)
Why didn't I realize this before? I'm laughing at myself this makes so much sense now.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by Finnucane on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:02PM (#37579592)
Lionel Fanthorpe legendarily wrote a book every weekend, but he is also legendarily one of the worst writers of all time.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by jandrese on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:25PM (#37579735)
I was thinking the only people who could possibly need to worry about that limit are shitty fanfiction writers.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by esperent on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:05PM (#37579972)
That sounds like a Douglas Adams line to me.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by angry_moose on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:08PM (#37579632)
I could see that for a few reasons. Someone new to Amazon adding their entire library at once, an updated edition of a long running series, different language versions of the same book, etc. Probably not many (any?) legitimate authors writing 3 books a day, but there are lots of instances where an author might be trying to add several at once.

Something like 60/month seems like it'd be a little more reasonable to allow these legitimate upload waves though.

Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by selcuka on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:12PM (#37579655)
> Something like 60/month seems like it'd be a little more reasonable

That would cause scammers to create new accounts, upload 60 books, hope to sell a few on the first few days until they get caught, then rinse and repeat.

Amazon will probably also monitor accounts who upload 3 books a day using some heuristic so that they can stop it before it becomes an issue.

Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by flangola7 on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @02:35AM (#37581079)
Amazon holds onto funds for at least 30 days. You can't bait and switch that fast.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by selcuka on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @02:47AM (#37581146)
Fair point. It still pollutes the marketplace, though.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by internetter on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @07:11AM (#37582766)
No one would pollute the marketplace unless expecting profit
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by makeitdouble on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @10:15PM (#37579673)
The notion of "book" is way fuzzier that it was in the olden days. There's nothing stopping an author from releasing one or two thousand words every as a single book, inside a larger story (basically having a book for what could have been single chapters ?)

Same way illustrators could publish their roughs and croquis as books, etc.

As those can be set with a 0$ price, and virtually no inventory issue, it feels like a practice that doesn't penalize either amazon, nor the author, nor the readers.

Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by dragonwriter on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:42PM (#37580140)
> There’s nothing stopping an author from releasing one or two thousand words every as a single book, inside a larger story (basically having a book for what could have been single chapters ?)

Amazon has a separate service within KDP for exactly that kind of serialization, [0] so while its true that KDP handles a wider range of books than just the novel-size works people seem to be thinking about, that particular example is probably an explicitly not-prioritized use case for regular “book” publishing on KDP.

[0] Kindle Vella: https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/GR2L4AHPMQ44HNQ7

Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by twobitshifter on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:11PM (#37579997)
My friend wrote a children’s book using AI. Even without AI, it may be possible to make a few children’s books with the same characters in a single day. I’m curious though, who are the authors who have published 3 long form books per month?
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by bombcar on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:19PM (#37580047)
Depends on your definition of what a book is. If you step outside of novels you have books that are mainly tables of facts, or get updated monthly, etc.
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by __loam on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:22PM (#37580066)
Re:Amazon Limits Authors to 3 Books a Day to Combat AI-Gener... by dragonwriter on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:40PM (#37580132)
> Only the most prolific authors have managed 3 books a month.

KDP “books” include “low-content books” (prompt journals, etc.), not just novels.