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Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by justrealist on Monday September 18, 2023 @04:29PM (#37561569)
If you have lived in SF, you understand the context this adds to the situation.
Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by PlunderBunny on Monday September 18, 2023 @04:35PM (#37561642)
Then couldn’t there be more detail that would allow those of us who haven’t lived in SF to understand it too?
Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by bombcar on Monday September 18, 2023 @04:42PM (#37561748)
The subtext is that he deserved to die, I assume.

(Which is a bit sarcastic, perhaps, but people generally value the homeless less on various axis, whether they want to admit it or not, because when you hear "bad thing happened to man" you immediately want to know if that man could have been you, once you learn he was homeless the panic reaction subsides.)

Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by dmitrygr on Monday September 18, 2023 @04:48PM (#37561829)
Yes. Happy to help you understand. Many homeless in SF are actually very mentally ill. They sometimes jump in front of traffic. This has happened to me a few times driving in SF. So the implication is that the bus driver may not at all have been at fault.
Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by justrealist on Monday September 18, 2023 @05:36PM (#37562407)
Yeah exactly.

I'm not saying anyone deserved to die; the homeless in SF are basically not autonomous agents anymore. Right or wrong, it shifts it in my mind from "bus driver is at fault" to "nobody is at fault" (except the city that encourages themn to them stay drugged and on the streets).

Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by P_I_Staker on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @09:28AM (#37569679)
So being homeless means that we shouldn't investigate fatal crashes? Personally, I don't think they should have to give up the right to not be murdered.
Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by justrealist on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @09:54AM (#37569961)
Did I say that?
Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by P_I_Staker on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @04:34PM (#37576127)
Yup, you sure did.
Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by PlunderBunny on Monday September 18, 2023 @07:11PM (#37563386)
Thanks - I guess we don’t know if that’s what happened in this case, but that possibility hadn’t occurred to me.
Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by P_I_Staker on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @09:26AM (#37569657)
Yes, and this is fucked up, is what we're saying
Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by moate on Monday September 18, 2023 @04:42PM (#37561746)
I don’t live there, could you provide the context in a paragraph or 2?
Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by fragmede on Monday September 18, 2023 @05:00PM (#37561983)
The subtext is that the individual was not of right mind, either due to sleep deprivation from being unhoused, or the stress itself of being unhoused, or, to be blunt, being on drugs. Not that it, in any way, makes it okay to have run over them, but the implication is that it's possible they got hit because they stepped out/jumped in front of the bus, and that it wasn't the fault of the bus driver. Not saying that's what happened here, but that's the framing that saying they're homeless gives for me.

For additional context, Harrison and 7th isn't located in the best neighborhood, which is to say there are numerous tent cities in that vicinity.

Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by reducesuffering on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @02:30AM (#37566301)
> Harrison and 7th isn't located in the best neighborhood

checks location

~$10b unicorn Plaid's headquarters. SF is truly an enigma

Re:A Bus Driver Killed a Man, the City Blamed Tech by P_I_Staker on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @09:30AM (#37569702)
> Not that it, in any way, makes it okay to have run over them, but the implication is that it's possible they got hit because they stepped out/jumped in front of the bus, and that it wasn't the fault of the bus driver

This sounds like this makes it, "in some way", okay to people here. No need for investigation, it must be the dirty homeless.