My Lenovos have been fairly good, better than the Dells or HPs I've had to use.

What about Framework?

Terrible battery. Maybe amd would change this but these are not shipped yet

That’s a shame and a shame 18650 packs aren’t as viable anymore compared to custom sized lipos. 18650 sockets would be a dream for a laptop. It’d be like a kids toy, just pop out the batteries and swap in new cells when it’s dead. Better yet do 4-6x 21700s.

for me, I don't want to swap batteries, I want a laptop that can work a lot on it's own and have proper sleep state. After trying m1 mac, I don't see myself buying anything else just bc battery life is so good and absolute lack of noise for Air model, even if it's worse for repairability. I'd better buy a new mac with good experience than buy a rapairable/upgradable framework with much worse power consumption (and trackpad)

I’m not in the USA, so warranty on these alternate brands is a nightmare.

My Lenovo is ok, but I don’t see it continuing forever. I’d say they’re riding on the fact they were part of IBM.

They have be "riding" that for a long time now.

Have you tried any of System76's laptops? I've been curious and would like to hear experiences

No I’m too afraid of the warranty situation as I live outside the USA. I would love too try though.

All ThinkPads ThinkPads are made by Lenovo, but not all Lenovos are ThinkPads.

I bought a Lenovo Ideapad Pro 5, 7840HS.

First order, it had coil whine, rattling touchpad and a corrupted edid.

Second order, it also had coil whine, rattling and non-working touchpad.

I'm truly puzzled.

Dell sales ubuntu preinstalled on some of their laptops. I have used Inspiron and Latitude for a decade without any issues.

Meanwhile my macbook pro had decided not to boot anymore third time. It will go to dust bin now.

I’ve got a graveyard of XPS, YMMV

I just hit one year with a system76 laptop. The hardware isn't super, but I have had zero complaints in the last year.

The ThinkPad X1 line is of great quality. I've been using it with Linux for the past 8 years and never really had any issues.

Unlike Apple, Lenovo also has very cheap quality laptops, so when you hear people say that their Lenovo laptop is bad, make sure to figure out which one.