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Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by legohead on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:09AM (#37420056)
My first thought was "mama" (and possibly "dada"), as I believe I've seen it attributed to the fact it's an easy word for babies to make since it mimics the first sounds we make. But it's not even mentioned..
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by jangliss on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:21AM (#37420271)
In Turkish those are "anne" (an-ney) and "baba"... And "mama" means baby food!
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by Cyph0n on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:31AM (#37420427)
In Tunisian Arabic baby speak, “mama” means “mama” but “mam-ma” (see [1]) means food/eat.

Quite confusing, but it seems to work?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadda

Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by yongjik on Thursday September 07, 2023 @05:07PM (#37425597)
In Korean, "mamma" is baby-talk for food, "eomma" is mom, and "mama" is "Your Highness" (which is also a euphemism for... measles).
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by Cyph0n on Thursday September 07, 2023 @06:33PM (#37426550)
So measles is a royal sickness.. I guess Korean wins haha
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by sambapa on Thursday September 07, 2023 @12:22PM (#37421352)
Nope, see finnish for supereasy counterexample
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by magicpin on Thursday September 07, 2023 @06:17PM (#37426376)
And yet the word for grandma is suspiciously similar to mama.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by mostlylurks on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:59PM (#37427396)
The word for grandma is "isoäiti", at least in sentences like "I went to visit my grandma last weekend". Monikers such as "mummo" are borrowed from Swedish, which means that not too long ago, the finnish language seems to have been without any "mama"-related words. Which is more interesting than the fact that some of those have been borrowed into modern day finnish, since it shows that "mama" is not a universal feature of all languages.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by eru on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:44PM (#37428245)
> Monikers such as "mummo" are borrowed from Swedish, which means that not too long ago, the Finnish language seems to have been without any "mama"-related words.

I'm not sure we can conclude that? Borrowings can displace existing words, so the current state of the vocabulary doesn't necessarily tell you what was there before.

As a slightly related example in German: 'Base' and 'Vetter' for your girl and boy cousins have been replaced in the last few decades with the French borrowings 'Cousine' (also spelled 'Kusine') and 'Cousin' (also spelled 'Kuseng'). Looking just at the current vocabulary, you might conclude that German did not have specific words for these people until the French come along.

Germans also replaced 'Muhme' and 'Oheim' with 'Tante' and 'Onkel'.

Fun aside: the English word 'boss' has etymological ties with the German 'Base'.

Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by MandieD on Friday September 08, 2023 @03:17AM (#37430531)
I’ve never heard “Base” (only “Kusine”) for female cousin, but still usually hear “Vetter” for male cousin, and “Vettern” for multiple cousins of mixed gender.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by Aachen on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:00PM (#37426845)
... well go on then, what do the Finnish babies say as their first word?
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by SilasX on Thursday September 07, 2023 @08:00PM (#37427417)
And which of the zillion declensions do they use? :-p
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by reducesuffering on Thursday September 07, 2023 @06:08PM (#37426272)
In Georgian's case, mom is deda and dad is mama
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by irrational on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:12PM (#37426954)
Reminds me of Hebrew where Who is he, he is she, and me is who.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by judah on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:17PM (#37427004)
Also in Hebrew: fish is dog דג
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by whitten on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:46PM (#37427277)
I guess that is why Dagon is a sea god in Phoenician
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by tonymillion on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:43PM (#37428238)
Didn’t the Beatles write song like that?
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by grishka on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:07PM (#37426901)
In Russian there's no "dada", it's "papa" instead.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by garba_dlm on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:15PM (#37426983)
'd' and 'p' are close enough. specially since the point of contrast is the 'm' of the opposite(complimentary) concept/sound/principle: ma ma
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by pkd on Thursday September 07, 2023 @08:13PM (#37427531)
Linguistically, I don't think d and p are close at all. But a sibling comment also links to the Wikipedia entry for this common fallacy.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by bedobi on Thursday September 07, 2023 @10:43PM (#37428592)
what? linguists would universally consider d and p extremely similar, they're near identical plosives
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by pkd on Friday September 08, 2023 @12:24AM (#37429301)
Plosives are a big category. "k" is also a plosive, but does not sound anything like a <d> or <p>. d and p are plosives but are made using completely different parts of the mouth (dental vs labial). Perhaps some linguist will consider them "close" but "near identical" is almost certainly wrong, but I am happy to be proven wrong with a citation.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by ashleney on Friday September 08, 2023 @01:37AM (#37429782)
Quickly glossing over index diachronica, there's no common sound change of p<->d, but p<-b->m with the medial b has instances. (sorry for the syntax, no idea how to express this)
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by caf on Friday September 08, 2023 @01:46AM (#37429845)
Alveolar for /d/, at least the way I say it.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by bedobi on Friday September 08, 2023 @01:08PM (#37436330)
both you and the comment I'm replying to are hilariously hackernews pedantic

consider all the sounds humans can produce

now ask yourself

1) amongst them, if p and d are close (there is no world in which the answer to that is "no")

2) if there are real life examples of languages shifting between them or using them interchangeably (there are, papa and dada being a prime example)

Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by pkd on Saturday September 09, 2023 @05:04AM (#37443482)
Of course, I did qualify my initial comment with "linguistically", the intention was to be pedantic.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by opprobium on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:16PM (#37426986)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mama_and_papa

"In linguistics, mama and papa are considered a special case of false cognates. In many languages of the world, sequences of sounds similar to /mama/ and /papa/ mean "mother" and "father", usually but not always in that order."

Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by stevekemp on Friday September 08, 2023 @05:08AM (#37431294)
Our Finnish child learned to say "äiti" for mother pretty early on. But his first real word was when he started saying "mama" - meaning he wanted milk.

No idea where that came from, but we understood pretty quickly.